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Suspect, who recently lost his mother, had a troubled history
Sun Sentinal via msn ^ | 14 Febuary 2018 | Paula McMahon, Stephen Hobbs, Anne Geggis and Scott Travis

Posted on 02/14/2018 8:44:16 PM PST by blueplum

PARKLAND, Fla. - The suspected gunman in the mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland seemed troubled and depressed in recent years and his adoptive mom died just 3 1/2 months ago, neighbors, friends and family members said... [snip]The boys were left in the care of a family friend after their adoptive mom died Nov. 1, she said... [snip]"Lynda the mom was always apologetic. She had her hands full," Shelby said. "They were very much on their own. The kids seem to roam around and come and go as they pleased," Richie Speno said. Police were called out numerous times, and Shelby said Cruz was seen shooting at a neighbor's chickens. "I told my husband I was so glad they moved.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; douglashigh; fatherless; flschoolshooting; guns; nicolascruz; nicolascruzbio; parkland; schoolshooting
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To: blueplum

He has a “troubled” and possibly very short future also.


41 posted on 02/14/2018 11:24:22 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: blueplum

Killed animals before moving up to humans. That’s a common precursor.


42 posted on 02/14/2018 11:46:35 PM PST by OrangeHoof (Donald Trump: Doing the work American politicians just won't do.)
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To: blueplum

Ah, here we go with the mental case. Once again ignoring the radical islam connection. Gotta circle and protect those muslims.


43 posted on 02/15/2018 12:08:44 AM PST by taxesareforever (Islam is an ideology. It is NOT a religion.)
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To: blueplum

That’s a shame.

Now put him down.


44 posted on 02/15/2018 12:27:38 AM PST by servo1969
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

I’m certainly not going to let some liberal pound a first or second amendment drum.

The perp acted out in a heinous and murderous manner and the law will be swift.

The discussion I want to see opened is why there is no process to ride herd on adopted children with known chronic acting out issues and/or that have a life-changing event like loss of a parent/home (identity) ? We can’t catch every young adult that goes postal, but we know who adopted kids are. It is social agencies who approve parents and the courts who approve adoptions and so bear a responsibility, given known statistics that at least some adoptive children will have behavior issues, to ensure any adoptive child exhibiting a history of unstable behavior receives intervention. But if the parent isn’t self-reporting, then where’s the tool that connects ‘multiple police calls to the home’ with a judge who can order that intervention? We need to do better.


45 posted on 02/15/2018 12:30:48 AM PST by blueplum ( "...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
we need faithful marriage to be the standard and we need to make living together without marriage taboo, and having sex outside of marriage taboo...

I know that will never happen...

but the world was safer when there were mom's and dads in every home...

46 posted on 02/15/2018 12:43:58 AM PST by cherry
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To: yldstrk

You are on target. Instead of metal detectors, we need mental detectors. Nikolas Cruz should have set off loud pings and pulled aside for his desperately needed mental health. In the past, such troubled kids were sent to a caring family member or a christian pastor for counseling. There was Scouts and Catholic Youth Organization and Boy’s Clubs for the comfort a group would give. Today, the pit of isolation is an easy trap with no way out.

You, as well as Posts #12 (keyhopper), #16 (blueplum), and #26 (Marchmain) have expressed the same idea. This mental train wreck should have been caught much much earlier.


47 posted on 02/15/2018 12:45:07 AM PST by jonrick46 (Trump continues to have all the right enemies.)
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To: OrangeHoof

“Killed animals before moving up to humans. That’s a common precursor.”

It’s not the killing of animals. He evidently received joy out of killing animals for no reason other than to take their life.

Most of us have killed many animals. That does not make us a murderer of people.


48 posted on 02/15/2018 1:46:14 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: blueplum

The root of the problem most likely stems from the original reason that he had an adoptive mom.

Violation of the trust between the mother and young child, even when in the womb, is a powerful influence on the developing child’s personality and values.


49 posted on 02/15/2018 1:49:36 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: blueplum

Think Jason Borne.


50 posted on 02/15/2018 2:05:54 AM PST by stockpirate (TYRANNY IS THY NAME REBELLION IS OUR ANSWER. HANG THEM ALL!)
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To: blueplum

No dad around plus adhd meds equals trouble.


51 posted on 02/15/2018 3:12:37 AM PST by CincyRichieRich (Q : He's not just for Star Trek anymore.)
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To: roadcat

There used to be institutions for people with such dispositions. But now we have mainstreaming - forcing the aberrant to mingle with the normals so adults can have warm fuzzies about ‘no child left behind’.


52 posted on 02/15/2018 3:17:38 AM PST by greatvikingone
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To: lee martell

“I’m 61, so I recall Streaking very well. I wondered why most all of it stopped so quickly. “

Well gee, perhaps it was the fact that laws were changed to make ‘indecent exposure’ a crime worthy of being on sexual predators list...for life?!


53 posted on 02/15/2018 3:30:11 AM PST by Beagle8U (Wake up and smell the Covfef)
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To: blueplum

Who gives a crap if this POS had childhood problems? Millions of kids have problems and they don’t go around killing people to make up for it. Impale him on a short stake and broadcast the whole thing live on TV.


54 posted on 02/15/2018 3:41:02 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: OrangeHoof

“Killed animals before moving up to humans. That’s a common precursor.”

Except for the millions of kids who started hunting at a early age and never harmed anyone.


55 posted on 02/15/2018 3:42:38 AM PST by Beagle8U (Wake up and smell the Covfef)
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To: blueplum

oh the humanity! the bleeders are right out their making excuses, “He lost his adoptive mother” oh! ok that explains it


56 posted on 02/15/2018 3:55:01 AM PST by ronnie raygun (Trump plays chess the rest are still playing checkers)
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To: txrefugee

The media hardly ever if at all tells us if these shooters have ever been prescribed mind-altering meds. Wouldn’t it be nice if outraged media and political loudmouths demanded a ban on those poisons?


57 posted on 02/15/2018 3:59:17 AM PST by grania (Deplorable and Proud of It!)
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To: blueplum
This stuff happens because ignorant but well meaning teachers and schools think they can save everyone.

Some kids should be expelled and not come back.

58 posted on 02/15/2018 4:03:17 AM PST by Solson (Trump 2020!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Read the article.


59 posted on 02/15/2018 4:07:08 AM PST by a little elbow grease (Zip ties and duct tape are far more productive than pussy hats and #metoo tweets)
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To: ronnie raygun

Remind them he said he was going to be “a professional school shooter” in September, before his mother died.

FBI was told, just like they were told about Dr. Nassar....


60 posted on 02/15/2018 4:09:17 AM PST by greatvikingone
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