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With 3 'Hops,' NSA Gets Millions Of Phone Records (2013 Report- one suspected terrorist allows it))
npr.org ^ | July 31, 2013

Posted on 02/13/2018 10:38:30 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Edited on 02/13/2018 12:35:19 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

WASHINGTON (AP)

(Excerpt) Read more at npr.org ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: nsa
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Since this is on the NPR website I did not extract it.

Originally written by the AP.

Putting this up for reference!!!

Found this from a link at the Dan Bongino website under show notes.

1 posted on 02/13/2018 10:38:30 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: bitt; SunkenCiv

ping.


2 posted on 02/13/2018 10:40:24 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Great if you think you can trust the government not to find out things about you and then use them against you.


3 posted on 02/13/2018 10:41:58 AM PST by I want the USA back (Cynicism may just keep you from going insane in a world that has chosen its own demise.)
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To: All
References:

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NSA collected Americans' phone records despite law change: report ^

 
05/04/2017 8:35:37 AM PDT · by Oldeconomybuyer · 4 replies
Reuters ^ | May 2, 2017 | By Mark Hosenball

4 posted on 02/13/2018 10:44:52 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: I want the USA back

Great if you think you can trust the government not to find out things about you and then use them against you.

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There was once a time, not that long ago, that I would have scoffed at a comment like this and said that if you’re not breaking the law, you’ve got nothing to worry about.

These days it seems, if you are on the wrong side of someone’s politics, you might


5 posted on 02/13/2018 10:45:04 AM PST by z3n
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Maxine Waters: “Obama Has Put In Place” A Secret Database With “Everything On Everyone” (Video)

Jim Hoft Jun 9th, 2013 12:37 pm

We were warned–

Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA) told Roland Martin in a February interview,

“Obama has put in place the kind of database… will have everything on every individual.”

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/06/maxine-waters-obama-has-put-in-place-secret-database-with-everything-on-everyone-video/

Before It’s News has the transcript:

“The President has put in place an organization with the kind of database that no one has ever seen before in life,” Representative Maxine Waters told Roland Martin on Monday.

“That’s going to be very, very powerful,” Waters said. “That database will have information about everything on every individual on ways that it’s never been done before and whoever runs for President on the Democratic ticket has to deal with that. They’re going to go down with that database and the concerns of those people because they can’t get around it. And he’s [President Obama] been very smart. It’s very powerful what he’s leaving in place.”

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/06/maxine-waters-obama-has-put-in-place-secret-database-with-everything-on-everyone-video/


6 posted on 02/13/2018 10:45:47 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive of 64+ million Trump Deplorables. You will lose!)
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To: I want the USA back

See #4.


7 posted on 02/13/2018 10:46:10 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: I want the USA back

If you’re not breaking any laws or doing anything immoral there’s not much that can be used against you.


8 posted on 02/13/2018 10:47:37 AM PST by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust Sessions. The Great Awakening is at hand...MAGA!)
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To: bigbob

I think Gen. Flynn might have a different opinion.


9 posted on 02/13/2018 10:49:05 AM PST by Signalman
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"John Inglis, the NSA's deputy director, conceded the point but said NSA officials "try to be judicious" about conducting hop analysis. "And so while, theoretically, 40 times 40 times 40 gets you to a large number, that's not typically what takes place," he said. "We have to compare the theory to the practice."

INCORRECT. We have to compare both the theory and the practice to the Constitution.

10 posted on 02/13/2018 10:50:28 AM PST by edwinland
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To: Grampa Dave; All
And there is this:

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NSA Loses Authority To Collect Phone Records As Senate Adjourns ^
 
06/01/2015 3:01:58 AM PDT · by Biggirl · 48 replies
Breitbart.com ^ | June 1, 2015 | Breitbart News

11 posted on 02/13/2018 10:51:18 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The three degrees of violating the 4th Amendment...


12 posted on 02/13/2018 10:51:23 AM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: bigbob
If you’re not breaking any laws or doing anything immoral there’s not much that can be used against you.

There are so many laws and regulations that pretty much all of us are violating some of them all the time. Sometimes the "authorities" pop up out of nowhere to, for example, take someone's land for preposterous reasons because of some regulation that nobody even knew existed. For example from The Hill: "Andy Johnson had sued the EPA last year over about $16 million in fines that he had amassed for constructing a pond on his property without an EPA permit, in a creek that the agency said is subject to the Clean Water Act."

It brings to mind a quote from Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged":
“Did you really think we want those laws observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with.”

13 posted on 02/13/2018 10:57:49 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Russians couldnt have done a better job destroying sacred American institutions than Democrats have)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

If I were a terrorist, I would open a telemarketing company.


14 posted on 02/13/2018 10:58:44 AM PST by fruser1
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To: bigbob
WRONG! The Bundy's in Nevada. They had property ....with possible uranium!

Roy Potter has much info on that .

And same for a Rancher in Oregon George Webb has a video where HE IS KILLED>>>by LEO..believe it was a Fed agent.

15 posted on 02/13/2018 10:59:07 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Grampa Dave

Why do you think the Dems built that multi billion data collection center in Utah?


16 posted on 02/13/2018 11:17:30 AM PST by antidemoncrat
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To: bigbob

They have been going after Trump & his people for more than a year. They did nothing wrong, yet our tyrranical government harasses them.


17 posted on 02/13/2018 11:34:25 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: antidemoncrat

“Why do you think the Dems built that multi billion data collection center in Utah?”

How many guesses do I get?


18 posted on 02/13/2018 12:44:46 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive of 64+ million Trump Deplorables. You will lose!)
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To: Grampa Dave

LOL!


19 posted on 02/13/2018 1:22:45 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Grampa Dave

I don’t think you will need more than one unless you are a
Democrat.


20 posted on 02/13/2018 1:26:30 PM PST by antidemoncrat
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