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ICE arrest of Kansas professor highlights complicated paths to citizenship
NBC News ^ | 02/08/2018 | by ELIZABETH CHUCK and DANIELLA SILVA

Posted on 02/08/2018 7:54:07 AM PST by SeekAndFind

The detention of a Kansas father of three who has lived in the U.S. for three decades highlights what experts say is the extraordinarily complicated nature of immigration law — and how much can change from one administration to the next.

Immigration experts said the path towards citizenship can easily get derailed by what appear to be minor infractions, which may have contributed to the seemingly out-of-the blue detention of Syed Ahmed Jamal last month.

Jamal, who is from Bangladesh, was about to take his daughter to school on Jan. 24 when U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officials showed up on his front lawn in Lawrence, Kansas, and arrested him.

"It's been said that tax law and immigration law are the most complex. They're so intricate," said Alma Rose Nieto, a member of the American Immigration Lawyers Association and a legal analyst. "It's like brick-laying — the foundation, you start with one, and they all go together like a crossword puzzle. You miss one and that will bring the whole thing down."

Jamal's arrest stunned his family, who say he entered the U.S. for the first time in 1980s, lawfully. An attorney for the family, Jeffrey Y. Bennett, said he had a series of visas, including F1s for his graduate and Ph.D studies in the sciences, and an H1B visa for highly skilled workers.

There's no typical path to attaining citizenship, and often times, the process can be fraught, said Royce Bernstein Murray, policy director at the American Immigration Council, an immigrant advocacy group based in Washington, D.C.

“Obviously there are laws and regulations that guide eligibility and the process, but every case is certainly unique and runs into its own hiccups and obstacles along the way, particularly when you have someone's immigration status tied to their employment situation,"

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: aliens; almarosenieto; bangladesh; ice; illegals; immigration; jeffreyybennett; kansas; roycebernsteinmurray; syedahmedjamal
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1 posted on 02/08/2018 7:54:07 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s not complicated. He’s a criminal.


2 posted on 02/08/2018 7:56:00 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=400>)
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To: SeekAndFind
I believe one of the reasons is that the H1B had already been revoked by his employer prior to the time that he had already submitted his change of status," unbeknownst to Jamal, according to Bennett.

Jamal, you status was revoked because you were no longer working for that company.

How could you not know that you are not going into work and getting a paycheck?

3 posted on 02/08/2018 7:57:34 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: SeekAndFind

What is so complicated about being an illegal alien ad either subject to deportation, or better yet, arrested and on way out of the country. Good riddance. And may an American citizen fill his job. And his employer jailed.


4 posted on 02/08/2018 7:58:08 AM PST by Reno89519 (Americans Are Dreamers, Too! No to Amnesty, Yes to Catch-and-Deport, and Yes to E-Verify.)
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To: SeekAndFind

My last two bosses became citizens.
My previous boss went into an interview and the interviewer asked slowly “Do..you..speak..English?”. My boss replied in his rural Virginia accent “Oh Hell yeah”.


5 posted on 02/08/2018 7:58:21 AM PST by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

BTTT


6 posted on 02/08/2018 7:58:46 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamiin Franklin)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

A state employee has to go through the I9 process.


7 posted on 02/08/2018 7:59:02 AM PST by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: SeekAndFind

Complicated paths to deportation.


8 posted on 02/08/2018 7:59:41 AM PST by fruser1
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To: SeekAndFind

“the extraordinarily complicated nature of immigration law”

NO! Immigration law is clear and simple for anyone who respects it.


9 posted on 02/08/2018 8:00:19 AM PST by miniTAX (a)
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To: SeekAndFind

And he’s taken a job from an American

It’s not “complicated” at all. He broke the law, and the law won


10 posted on 02/08/2018 8:00:20 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat (Another Islamic terrorist event, and no “outrage” from the “Muslim community”. Again)
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To: Reno89519

It is complicated and there are different visas for different purposes. But that does not excuse finding the right method and means to becoming a citizen since obviously it is not impossible. I think many like him simply assume that ICE will never have them in sight. Or they take the advice of sham immigration experts who tell them not to worry.

So there really is no excuse for his lack of taking care of his status. Personally I think this is the type of immigrant we do want to become legal citizens. Too bad he dropped the ball.


11 posted on 02/08/2018 8:04:22 AM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: SeekAndFind
the extraordinarily complicated nature of immigration law

Tax Law is likewise extraordinarily complicated, so I guess that one can also flout Tax Law with impunity, right?

Regards,

12 posted on 02/08/2018 8:04:27 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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Immigration experts said the path towards citizenship can easily get derailed...

You can be at Customs in the airport with all your papers and permissions to enter in hand and still be turned away, put right back on a plane home to the country you just came from.

13 posted on 02/08/2018 8:07:32 AM PST by gunsequalfreedom
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It is possible that his CV made him better qualified than American candidates. Remember universities just recently started pushing STEM studies. Even then the amount of indoctrination required to graduate may turn employers off to hiring them.


14 posted on 02/08/2018 8:07:55 AM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Beware these alien huggers who use all three of their names, i.e., the departed poser, B.H. Obola.


15 posted on 02/08/2018 8:09:17 AM PST by Tucker39 ("It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible." George Washington)
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To: SeekAndFind

since when has there a “path to citizenship” for illegal aliens?


16 posted on 02/08/2018 8:09:57 AM PST by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

DING! DING! DING!

WINNER!

He drug his feet in getting his status change, because prior to January 2017, his former employer was REQUIRED to notify ICE IMMEDIATELY after his termination of employment! Now, the employer has 60-days, just what a person needs to overstay his VISA - 60 days to just disappear!

It’s stupid rules like these that make VISA overstays so damn easy! It’s as ignorant at not having a wall right where most people just WALK-IN to our country - unabated!!


17 posted on 02/08/2018 8:10:05 AM PST by ExTxMarine (Diversity is tolerance; diverse points of views will not be tolerated!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Funny how my mom was able to follow all of the immigration laws for over 40 years and dot every i and cross every t when it was demanded by INS. She always was extremely careful to follow every direction given to her and she never once lapsed. But she was a legal alien and never tried to make out like she was being victimized. She was married to my father until her death and raised six children with none becoming criminals. No social services or WIC or subsidized housing. She went to school, became an R.N. and spoke english fluently.

That is why I have no pity for these “poor” illegals. None. Go back home and btw, please pay back all you stole from the American people!


18 posted on 02/08/2018 8:12:44 AM PST by punknpuss
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To: SeekAndFind
He entered the US "lawfully" but stayed beyond the allowed ILLEGALLY. Deport this criminal invader. Seize his ill-gotten assets to help defray the costs.
19 posted on 02/08/2018 8:14:25 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

RE: It’s not complicated. He’s a criminal.

If I were a betting man, I would bet that the case will be decided by the courts IN FAVOR of Jamal, for the following reasons:

1) The Dems will create a PR nightmare out of this in the next election cycle and make an ad out of it insinuating that the GOP and Trump will be breaking down doors to arrest productive migrants who are trying to fix their paper work.

2) The Indian/Bangladeshi/Pakistani community will make a big stink out of this ( it already is creating a big stink in the GoFundMe sites ).

Not only that, I am willing to bet that MOST ordinary Americans will sympathize with Jamal on this one and view the ICE agents as the villains ( I know, I know, there will be exceptions, but I still believe that MOST will sympathize with him ).

3) The problem with ICE is their inability to PRIORITIZE their cases. On the one hand, we have educated, tax paying men like these who should have been LOWER in the case priority and on the other hand, we have thugs and murderous criminals who are being ignored by ICE.

4) But does a case like this invalidate the immigration policy proposals of Trump? NOPE.

to demand that Trump abandon his immigration policies because of a case like this would be like demanding we abolish Medicaid totally because of hundreds of thousands of cases of fraud.


20 posted on 02/08/2018 8:17:30 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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