Posted on 02/06/2018 7:54:59 AM PST by SeekAndFind
When we had lunch together one afternoon a few months back, Canadian psychologist and university professor Jordan Peterson, who has risen to meteoric prominence for his courageous stand against political correctness and legally compelled speech, looked distressingly frail and was on a restricted diet prescribed by his physician. The ordeal the press and the University of Torontos administration, which had threatened to discipline him for his refusal to accede to legislation forcing the use of invented pronouns, had obviously taken its toll. (Note: Peterson was willing to address individuals by their chosen pronouns, but was not willing to be forced to do so by law.)
Our conversation ranged over the work of Friedrich Nietzsche, C.G. Jung and Fyodor Dostoevsky, Petersons chief secular resources, as well as the Book of Genesis, the Prophetic literature and the Gospel of John, Petersons biblical lynchpins. His meditations on these texts have obviously struck a chord with his audience. From Nietzsches complex web of ideas, he focuses on the notion of critical strength to combat cultural weakness and the primacy of the individual over the group. From Jung comes the theory of the hero archetype, the feral shadow component of the psyche which must be both acknowledged and mastered, and the animus dominated feminist on a quest for societal control. He elaborates on the political wisdom of Dostoevskys novels The Devils and The Brothers Karamazov, and expands on a favorite quote from Notes from Underground, You can say anything about world history. Except one thing. It cannot be said that world history is reasonable.
From the biblical wellspring he develops the idea of creative vitality transforming darkness into light, reflects on the Prophetic summons to integrity, righteousness and the Kingdom of God for Peterson the ground of the higher good and the divinity of the soul and stresses the concept of the Logos, the principle that imposes order on chaos and seeks to make the unreasonable rational, which he identifies with the spirit of masculinity.
Peterson is clearly filling a gaping spiritual vacuum experienced by a vast community, primarily young men, who have been deprived of agency, self-confidence and life-meaning. And he is doing so by representing the insights of his sources to readers and viewers unfamiliar with these magisterial texts and cultural giants a privation owing in large measure to poor upbringing and an anorexic education. Pajama Boys living in their parents basement drinking hot chocolate rather than the Castalian water of knowledge, and men young and old who have been infected and oppressed by the feminist preaching of toxic masculinity, are in desperate need of moral revitalization and intellectual supervision.
The Peterson phenomenon, then, testifies to the deep sense of spiritual emptiness in our culture. Confronting the abyss, he argues that nobility is possible despite the recognition that life inescapably involves suffering, evil and death, and contends that male vigor, fortitude and resilience are essential to cultural survival. In a culture obsessed with group rights, Peterson points out that absent its necessary counterpart, individual responsibility, social collapse is inevitable.
Petersons message is not new to anyone who has read and pondered his sources; yet it is new in the sense that he has performed an act of synthesis for a largely illiterate, politically indoctrinated and under-educated generation. As John Dale Dunn writes in American Thinker, Petersons great accomplishment is teaching, counseling, and coaching people to urge them to live the good life, the virtuous life. The only way he might be ambushed is [by being targeted] by the destroyers of the left with their name calling and politics of personal destruction, deploying tactics straight out of Saul Alinskys Rules for Radicals.
And indeed, the leftist/feminist vendetta is following the script. The now famous interview between Peterson and the BBC 4s Cathy Newman, a feminist attack dog, was indeed fascinating, a true gentleman and reflective thinker on one side, on the other a vehement harridan and raving ideologue. Indeed, it was not so much an interview as a planned assault, which did not go as intended. Newman came off as a hectoring bully who insisted on re-interpreting each of Petersons answers in order to place him in a bad light. She quite literally did not know what she was talking about, was no match for Petersons wit, intelligence and erudition, and could scarcely follow the intricacies of his reasoning. The attack failed miserably. The BBC then played the victim card, placing Newman under protection against bruited threats to her safety in order to portray Peterson as the leader of a dangerous right-wing cult threatening the civil order. One can plainly see how the media hegemon operates, by applying Alinskys Rule 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it, and then feigning injury if the strategy fails.
The campaign against Petersons presence and his message is now in full swing in his own country. Canadas main public affairs magazine Macleans has featured an article (Nov. 17, 2017) titled Is Jordan Peterson the stupid mans smart person? shades of Hillarys deplorables written by a certain Tabatha Southey. It is a sophomoric rant dripping with smug disingenuousness and fey pro-Marxist rhetoric, accusing Peterson of monetizing his unease and of being a belle of the alt-right. She refers to Peterson as, variously, Jordan Pea-Headerson, Jordan Eggman, Dr. Pettyson, J-man and J. Pete the Beet, of whom most of what he says is, after fifteen seconds consideration, completely inane.
But Southey declines to demonstrate that she has given any of his statements even fifteen seconds consideration. Considering pontifical vulgarities to constitute an argument, What hes telling you, she proclaims derisively, is that certain people most of them women and minorities are trying to destroy not only our freedom to spite nonbinary university students for kicks, but all of Western civilization and the idea of objective truth itself. But in what sense is gender fluidity an objective truth? Moreover, the fact is that influential postmodern leaders such as Jean-Francois Lyotard, Jacques Derrida, Michel Foucault, Richard Rorty and Jean Baudrillard are on record denying that objective or universal truth exists: rather, all is interpretation or a function of communal agreement. Peterson is bang-on.
The problem with Southey is by no means unique. It is shared by Peterson detractors in general and even by the editorial board of what presumes to be a serious magazine, namely: an utter lack of taste, the inability to discriminate between superficial one-upmanship and scrupulous analysis, and intellectual vacuousness of the first magnitude.
Similarly, Canadas boutique left-wing journal The Walrus ran a defamatory article by University of Toronto professor Ira Wells, under the title The Professor of Piffle (Nov. 27, 2017). The article is a veritable trove of gross incivilities, lies, misrepresentations, slanders, and contradictions, coated in a thick mantle of sanctimoniousness the hallmark of the neo-Marxist brand of intellectual misbehavior.
We are informed that Peterson here we go again is the intellectual guru of the alt-right who libels postmodern thinkers for money, as if Mr. Wells wrote his piece libelling Peterson for free. (The Walrus pays between $1500-$2000 for longer reviews.) We are given, inter alia, some problematic statements about the nature of IQ, postmodern philosophers, artistic values, etc.
As usual, calumnies are offered in place of counter-argument. Referring to Petersons online conversation with Camille Paglia, Wells writes that he lamented that men cant exert control over crazy women by physically beating them. Anyone who has watched the interview will see that Wells has twisted Petersons words, slandering him with an outright decontextualization and intentional misinterpretation. Peterson was making a perfectly legitimate observation that there is a culturally sanctioned inequality between men and women favoring the latter. A woman may strike a man with impunity but a man must not strike a woman if he wishes to avoid social censure and punitive legal action. Peterson is not lamenting anything. He is merely stating the plain truth that men cant control crazy women, and Paglia, herself a leftwing sympathizer and longtime feminist, chuckled and nodded in evident agreement. Wells then goes on to bash Peterson for echo[ing] Donald Trump on fake news, unaware that he himself has just faked the news. Most of these anti-Peterson types are patently guilty of precisely the misdemeanors they accuse Peterson of.
Wells mops up the remnants of his carnage by falsifying the position of Lindsay Shepherd, the Wilfrid Laurier University TA who was interrogated by her superiors for bringing to class a five minute clip of Peterson on TV-Ontarios The Point. Wells claims she suggested we challenge [Petersons] assumptions, correct his willful misinterpretation of the humanities, and reveal the pseudo-scientific basis of his attitudes. Not so. Shepherd says that she believes in open dialogue across the political spectrum and condemns the authoritarian leftists [who] are social justice warriors. Her discussion with Peterson on Louder with Crowder, in which the two were fundamentally on the same page, leaves no doubt that Wells has played fast and loose with the truth. The practice is truly appalling. Obviously, Wells is the piffler, not Peterson.
Southey and Wells are exemplary types, paid dissemblers representing the two poles of Peterson haters, the literary urchin who thinks she is funny and the Herr Professor who thinks he is clever. Whereas Southey is flippant and embarrassingly puerile, Wells appears on stage wearing onkos and cothurnus, a postmodern highbrow who strives to tower over Peterson and the rest of us poor prols like a tragic actor on the classical Greek stage. Southey and Wells regard themselves as above reproach but in my estimation they are beneath contempt, like the leftist commentariat in general that oscillates between feeble attempts at satire and portentous efforts at scholarship, always in the service of a lie.
More recently (Jan. 31, 2018), The Globe and Mail, Canadas so-called national newspaper, sullied any vestige of impartiality and honor by publishing its own hatchet job, in which reviewer John Semley describes Peterson as an absurd figure, the possessor of a faintly flickering intellect, a creature of the alt-right (again!), and a shameless huckster. Such misrepresentations and put-downs proliferate throughout this dismal text. For example, we are told, once again, that Peterson bemoans the social taboo against being physically violent with crazy women when, as weve remarked, he does no such thing. The tenor of such reviews makes it obvious that the reviewers are not being honest but are pursuing a specific agenda, which is nothing other than character assassination. Neo-Marxist vigilantes attacking a modern hero, they are, in effect, literary hit men.
Nobody is claiming that Peterson is without flaws and blemishes. After all, as Hamlet wisely opines, use every man after his own deserts and who should scape whipping? At times Peterson can seem histrionic, at times he is prone to bursts of emotionalism. His writing style is occasionally more pedestrian than elegant, and his narratives occasionally carry a flavor of the bizarre (see pages 290-294 of his book). Nonetheless, I believe we have to accept that Peterson is an engaging speaker and a genuine thinker, understands biological science, enjoys a profound grasp of the philosophical and theological literature, and has a crucially important message to convey. We should also note, with regard to those who impugn his scientific credibility, that Petersons h-index, or citation count in peer-reviewed articles and papers, is through the roof, some 8000 to date. This metric, which measures both quality and ubiquity, establishes Peterson as a leader in his field.
Peterson concludes his book by wishing his readers all the best and hopes that you can wish the best for others. We wholeheartedly wish the best for Jordan Peterson. As we say in the holy tongue: refuah sheleimah. May he prosper and be in good health.
I just discovered this guy a few weeks ago. I’m addicted to his videos now. VERY useful and powerful. You go against him at your peril. He’s even better, in that way, than Ben Shapiro.
“And he cannot fathom how he got here.”
He got where he is the same way Trump got where he is:
The millions of us yearning for courageous leaders recognizing them as the ones who effectively speak and fight for what we ourselves believe.
Else, someone is going to refer to him misleadingly as the guy who refuses to use those pronouns.
So he needs to add the note to guard against the possibility of someone else making a wrong “inference” ... “on their own”?
And just why is it even important to worry that someone might wrongly infer that?
Hence my inference.
The 'left' is the emptiness - one of many reasons the left is trying to shut him up...
Identity politics —> You belong to some group, you are labeled and therefore you can be assigned/known/treated to have all of the characteristics assigned to people of that group.
Intersectional —> comes from math I suppose. We now have enough Identity Groups to now find YUGE overlaps. So we are now able identify an new Group Identity composed of people who are members of both groups.
Now go to looking for sets of people who are in the intersection of more than two groups.
That way we can ID innumerable victim groups who can have activists agitate for increased gov’t control to address their specific issues to the disadvantage of other groups.
HELP!
I've fallen into a deep chasm and can't get out.
That Cathy woman pushed me in.
He has only written two books. The one that just came out is:
12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos
https://www.amazon.com/12-Rules-Life-Antidote-Chaos/dp/0345816021
Here is his web site.
https://jordanbpeterson.com/
His recent interview by Cathy Newman of UK channel 4 has reached big Internet meme status. He eruditely and politely verbally eviscerates a SJW feminazi. She literally did not know what hit her, she was reeling so badly at the end from the verbal blows.
https://youtu.be/aMcjxSThD54
Jordan Peterson Debunks White Privilege
https://youtu.be/zbDggKqt3KA
full talk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfH8IG7Awk0
He has an extensive catalog of YouTube content. I’m here to tell you I think he is well worth exploring.
“There is a vast gulf between being forced by the state to do a thing and in being kind and respectful to an individual by using their preferred pronoun even if you disagree with them. “
So you are basically saying here that someone like Ben Shapiro, who won’t refer to Zoey Tur as “she”
or “her” is being unkind and disrespectful.
Is that right?
I actually bought the Kindle version.
He also had a Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/JordanPetersonVideos
and there are Jordan Peterson study groups that I have seen referenced on Reddit.
I am hooked!
Bless you and thank you so much.
Mel
I’m reading his book. A bit long-winded but interesting. My son bought it without knowing I did as well. I suspect there are lot of young people desperately eating up his advice as an antidote to all the leftist cr@p they’ve been fed, especially the talk about “toxic masculinity” and “male privilege”.
That Cathy woman pushed me in.
If that interview with Cathy Newman was a drinking game, using him saying “that’s not what I said” as the drink trigger, you’d be under the table by the end of the interview. He was brilliant. If you’ve not seen it...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMcjxSThD54
If you asked me to call you "Zenu, the flaming emperor of the Universe", I would.
I also would likely stop interacting with you completely. Again, you don't have to be an ass to someone if you disagree with them.
You got yourself a keeper.
Outside of hockey, real men are hard to find in Canada.
Jordan B. Peterson is a real man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=13&v=iRPDGEgaATU
Rubin Report —> Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro: Frontline of Free Speech
Because they’re trying to be accurate. What is wrong with simply trying to describe his position accurately for its own sake?
Author’s Note: I (David Solway) do not refer to myself using the pronouns “she” or “her”, but I am tolerant of those who use pronouns that differ from their biological gender, although such tolerance should not be made compulsory.
... Okay, so perhaps he should also add that note, just to be “accurate”, and the also guard against anyone making any wrong inferences about “him”, right?
Of course not, so the point is, you only stress the need for accuracy if there is some important distinction between a correct inference, and a wrong inference that someone might otherwise make.
And it’s my position that in the case cited from my original post, that no such important distinction exists, and to claim that it does merits the kind of inference that I made about that comment.
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