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Amtrak passenger train collides with freight train in SC, injuries reported
ABC ^ | 2/4/2018 | ABC

Posted on 02/04/2018 2:37:21 AM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001

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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

Update on the story says there are two dead. Prayers.


61 posted on 02/04/2018 7:02:01 AM PST by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: Fhios

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FHKxk719AMc


62 posted on 02/04/2018 7:05:41 AM PST by xp38
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63 posted on 02/04/2018 7:24:35 AM PST by upchuck (Keep a sharp lookout. The best is yet to come.)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

Just by looking at the pictures, it looks like both trains were on the same track.


64 posted on 02/04/2018 7:26:35 AM PST by JPJones (More tariffs, less income tax.)
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To: MNDude; ransomnote

Deep State retaliation and a warning of what they are capable of.


65 posted on 02/04/2018 7:32:07 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: Savage Beast

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag

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deceive in such a way that activities appear as though they are being carried out by
individual entities, groups, or nations other than those who actually planned and
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66 posted on 02/04/2018 7:34:59 AM PST by deport
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To: Fhios

Something suspiciously amiss.


67 posted on 02/04/2018 7:35:39 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Savage Beast

Yes, those slime bags.


68 posted on 02/04/2018 7:36:30 AM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

What the heck is going on with Amtrak?


69 posted on 02/04/2018 8:23:25 AM PST by EdnaMode
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To: JPJones

Yes,I agree.The freight being parked (in the hole) and amtrak at speed.


70 posted on 02/04/2018 8:23:53 AM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

Any privately owned rail road that had a record of fatal disasters like Amtrak would be out of business and a good number of its executives in jail. None of this ever happens with Amtrak.


71 posted on 02/04/2018 8:24:18 AM PST by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: Fhios

“Train collisions appear to be on the rise, no? Terrorists or Antifa?”

Yes, Amtrak does not appear to be up to the task of safely operating a rail line network these days.


72 posted on 02/04/2018 8:54:48 AM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

Yes,I agree.The freight being parked (in the hole) and amtrak at speed.
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What if the ‘hole’ the freight was supposed to be parked in is the empty track in front of the Amtrak? Checking whether the wiring in the track sensor / controller was tampered might show evidence of deep state interference to take our minds off of The Memo this weekend.


73 posted on 02/04/2018 8:59:45 AM PST by RideForever
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001
There were 8 crew members and approximately 139 passengers,

Only government would keep something like that afloat.

74 posted on 02/04/2018 9:08:02 AM PST by wastedyears (Americans are dreamers too.)
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To: deport

Thanks! I see. The Democrats and their operatives are MASTERS of the false flag.


75 posted on 02/04/2018 9:08:46 AM PST by Savage Beast (An honest man is opposing the corrupt, evil, criminal ruling establishment. Pray that he succeeds.)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

As of this moment it APPEARS to be that the AMTRAK Passenger train was the only one moving (59mph) and in the wrong place. It is probable that the two dead, being AMTRAK employees, may have been the engineers in the lead engine. The place of the accident is an assembly/switching yard where trains are assembled and railcars are moved for proper destinations.

Pertinent facts appear (to me) that the AMTRAK train thought it had clear track ahead and was permitted to move at normal speed. This likely means that something happened with the switching that put the AMTRAK train on the same rail as the immobile CSX train. I am somewhat certain that the selection of track is NOT UNDER the control of the train’s engineers but rather that of the switching yard and/or a central control point and most likely being an operation of the track owners - CSX.

Another possible cause would be that the AMTRAK engineers failed to see or disregarded a stop signal. They were most likely to have been quite experienced (assumption) on this route and were not worried about going through this switching yard at speed at that time of night.

Frankly, I think the first explanation of switching and/or control failure is most likely and as such responsibility will rest on CSX. Again, these are assumptions and they are only mine.


76 posted on 02/04/2018 9:33:37 AM PST by SES1066 (Happiness is a depressed Washington, DC housing market!)
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To: SES1066

Are you certain they were on the same track?


77 posted on 02/04/2018 11:22:55 AM PST by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: SES1066

on thestate.com is drone footage (private by someone named brandon) that shows a full line view fraom both sides of SC 321 overpass, and both ends of the amtrak train and most of the CSX.

Following the line back toward Columbia, the station train 91 had just left... the line is a single line.

The tracks coming out of the car hauler loading/unloading center are from two sides of the facility there— and each one has 3 tracks merging to two on the property and then merging to one track out to the 3-track “siding” which has the through line all the way to the merge at either end of that mainline siding (southbound not visible, northbound is visible just beyond the baggage car (last car of the amtrak train). The empty (said to by empty by on the scene reports, police) CSX car hauler train (cars/pigs say Union Pacific btw) the engines are northbound on the “inside” main single line— the same line that amtrak came in on from the Columbia station.
CSX engines were idled, and no engineers in them - the train was empty. This was massive screw up of CSX and/or the car hauler yard “manager”, because the two tracks closest to the auto loading yard would be typically have trains being put together on two tracks that are next to the single N-S main line.

Question is— why was an empty CSX auto hauling train, with no engineers in the cab... standing still on the main through line? Unless the amtrak train was to be switched into the middle track of the 3 which would run the entire length of the empty CSX train until it past the joining switch/at the end of the CSX northbound train.

Amtrak, going 50mph acc. to the State newspaper (below max speed of 59 for that segment) was OK’d by CSX dispatch upon leaving Columbia station and passing a large CSX freight marshalling yard on the SW side of the Congaree River crossing. Might be they didn’t see a “stop” light on the single line coming in— but the CSX dispatch would have to know that before Oking the amtrak past their own marshalling yard. Several possiblities. The stationary CSX double engines were hit by a 50mph Amtrak engine/electromotor towing the passenger, sleeper and baggage cars— that kept moving once the “dead stop” of the two engines separated them at the first towed car. Dreadful==the engineer and conductor in the cab of the amtrak would be crushed between the huge diesel engine and the larger CSX stationary freight diesel. God Bless them- no chance.

Maps and 6006le or Bing maps satellite views give a clear picture that is the single line which the the CSX train is sitting idle.


78 posted on 02/04/2018 11:51:47 AM PST by John S Mosby (SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS)
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To: aumrl

Signals were “suspended” due to CSX maintenance, train authority governed by paper “track warrant,” switch to siding was left open by freight crew, train hit head on in siding at about 40 mph, Amtrak conductor and engineer died in crushed cab, one passenger car split into a V-shape.


79 posted on 02/04/2018 11:56:07 AM PST by CedarDave (If Lea County, New Mexico was a state, we would be #7 in US crude oil production [NM is #3].)
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To: CedarDave

https://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2018/02/04/source-csx-maintainers-had-been-working-at-site-of.html


80 posted on 02/04/2018 12:04:14 PM PST by CedarDave (If Lea County, New Mexico was a state, we would be #7 in US crude oil production [NM is #3].)
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