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The Most Troubling Part in the Nunes Memo Really Could Matter Legally (United States v. Glover)
Law and Crime ^ | Feb 2, 2018 | by Ronn Blitzer

Posted on 02/02/2018 11:58:54 AM PST by 11th_VA

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To: GraceG

They are pathetic...


41 posted on 02/02/2018 1:02:20 PM PST by pookie18
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To: 11th_VA

Is there really anything in there that has not been put out from various sites? The Steele comments on Trump might be the only thing I didn’t see at one point or another.


42 posted on 02/02/2018 1:05:02 PM PST by pas
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To: wastoute
Schiff. Twice, dammit.

That's Schitthead to a lot of us!

43 posted on 02/02/2018 1:08:35 PM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: qaz123
Thanks, Qaz.

The rest of your Comment was insightful and spot on.

The only reason I correct things like that is because Left Side critics always see, and always magnify, those little errors in an attempt to make Conservatives look stupid.

44 posted on 02/02/2018 1:08:50 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: 11th_VA
Basically, the memo paints a picture of a government law enforcement working hand in hand with the DNC in order to take down Donald Trump. No wonder the DOJ, FBI, and Democrats were so vehemently against it.

That's it in a nutshell.

45 posted on 02/02/2018 1:15:16 PM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: gaijin
Comey's tweet sounds like it fits the mold of every other dimension of this entire fiasco: projection!

Don't the events which began after the surprise election results represent an effort by Progressives to accuse their opposition of the exactly the same offenses toward American citizens and a duly-elected President that they, themselves, are guilty of?

Isn't that projection of their own offenses to the Constitution of the United States of America onto their opposition (Trump and the Republicans) a sad and deplorable action which is un-paralleled in the history of the nation?

American citizens who care about preserving individual liberty and the Constitution which protects it should become well-informed about the history and scope of the ideology which motivates such an attack on the principles of the Declaration and Constitution.

The ideology of Progressivism, combined with the tactics of Alinsky, have been used to attack the principles of that Constitution, and only "the People" can effectively defeat the effort.

Some thoughts:

“But this institution was republican, and even democratic. And here not to be misunderstood, I mean by democratic, a government, the administration of which must always be rendered comfortable to that predominating public opinion . . . and by republican I mean a government reposing, not upon the virtues or the powers of any one man - not upon that honor, which Montesquieu lays down as the fundamental principle of monarchy - far less upon that fear which he pronounces the basis of despotism; but upon that virtue which he, a noble of aristocratic peerage, and the subject of an absolute monarch, boldly proclaims as a fundamental principle of republican government. The Constitution of the United States was republican and democratic - but the experience of all former ages had shown that of all human governments, democracy was the most unstable, fluctuating and short-lived; and it was obvious that if virtue - the virtue of the people, was the foundation of republican government, the stability and duration of the government must depend upon the stability and duration of the virtue by which it is sustained.” - John Quincy Adams - "Jubilee" Address, April, 1839

"I am among those who think well of the human character generally. I consider man as formed for society and endowed by nature with those dispositions which fit him for society." --Thomas Jefferson to William Green Munford, 1799.

"Everyone, by his property or by his satisfactory situation, is interested in the support of law and order. And such men may safely and advantageously reserve to themselves a wholesome control over their public affairs and a degree of freedom which, in the hands of the canaille of the cities of Europe, would be instantly perverted to the demolition and destruction of everything public and private." --Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, 1813. ME 13:401

"Every man being at his ease feels an interest in the preservation of order and comes forth to preserve it at the first call of the magistrate." --Thomas Jefferson to M. Pictet, 1803. ME 10:356

"The mobs of the great cities add just so much to the support of pure government as sores do to the strength of the human body. It is the manners and spirit of a people which preserve a republic in vigor. A degeneracy in these is a canker which soon eats to the heart of its laws and constitution." --Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia Q.XIX, 1782. ME 2:230

"To the sincere spirit of republicanism are naturally associated the love of country, devotion to its liberty, its right and its honor." --Thomas Jefferson: Reply to Virginia Legislature, 1809. ME 16:333

"[It is the people's] conviction that a solid Union is the best rock of their safety." --Thomas Jefferson to C. W. F. Dumas, 1791. ME 8:197

"The cement of this Union is in the heart-blood of every American. I do not believe there is on earth a government established on so immovable a basis." --Thomas Jefferson to Lafayette, 1815. ME 14:252

"Possessed of the blessing of self-government and of such a portion of civil liberty as no other civilized nation enjoys, it now behooves us to guard and preserve them by a continuance of the sacrifices and exertions by which they were acquired, and especially to nourish that Union which is their sole guarantee." --Thomas Jefferson: Reply to New London Plymouth Society, 1809. ME 16:360

Perhaps Jefferson's brilliant mind and ability to understand that ideas have consequences enabled him to foresee a time when a departure from principle and what Washington called the "Spirit of Party" would produce a power couple like the Clintons and the Progressives, as he observed:

"Unless the mass retains sufficient control over those entrusted with the powers of their government, these will be perverted to their own oppression, and to the perpetuation of wealth and power in the individuals and their families selected for the trust." --Thomas Jefferson to M. van der Kemp, 1812. ME 13:136

"No other depositories of power [but the people themselves] have ever yet been found, which did not end in converting to their own profit the earnings of those committed to their charge." --Thomas Jefferson to Samuel Kercheval, 1816. ME 15:71

46 posted on 02/02/2018 1:18:02 PM PST by loveliberty2
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To: gaijin

Tell it to the judge, Comey.


47 posted on 02/02/2018 1:27:08 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (Islam is Satans finest work.)
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To: djpg

I understand the Dem memo was not approved by the Committee as it had not been sourced.


48 posted on 02/02/2018 3:32:59 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: lapsus calami

This cannot be a battle for public opinion. Though, it appears that now because nobody but McCabe has been removed. Everybody else is sitting fat and sassy while Mueller marches on.


49 posted on 02/02/2018 5:00:23 PM PST by Lagmeister ( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
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To: exinnj

Nor should the ‘c’.


50 posted on 02/02/2018 5:07:54 PM PST by Bob (Damn, the democrats haven't been this upset since Republicans freed their slaves.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

McCabe himself signed off on one of the applications as well.


51 posted on 02/02/2018 5:10:26 PM PST by Bob (Damn, the democrats haven't been this upset since Republicans freed their slaves.)
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To: zeestephen

Don’t exaggerate.


52 posted on 02/02/2018 5:19:10 PM PST by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: 11th_VA

Democrats could have released their own memo but they refused to go through the process which is why the committee didn’t allow it..

Democrats also ‘refused’ to let the FBI check the DNC regarding hackers.....but the GOP did let the FBI check theirs and found there was no hacking in the GOP. They were hacking their own computers to make it look like someone else was.


53 posted on 02/02/2018 5:22:53 PM PST by caww
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To: qaz123

There is no known or suspected crime with respect to Trump. This is a witch hunt in search of a something - anything they can use to take down a duly elected President. Treason and Sedition plain and simple.


54 posted on 02/02/2018 5:27:44 PM PST by greeneyes
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To: arrogantsob

Re: “Don’t exaggerate.”

Exaggerate what? 96%?

Check it yourself...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2016

State totals - under District of Columbia


55 posted on 02/02/2018 6:16:38 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

Mueller’s case is so bad he would lose in DC too, or the case with be a hung jury. Lets for a second that Mueller got a sham conviction, he would eventually lose badly on appeal. He only has to look over his desk these days toward that epic and super losing lawyer on appeal named Andrew Weissman.


56 posted on 02/02/2018 6:18:36 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: 11th_VA

If there were, as the FBI alleges, “material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo’s accuracy,” it would have been leaked to the fifth-column media by the Demonicrats because as we know, neither have any concern about illegally revealing classified material if it can help them or hurt Trump or the Republicans.

We also know that the FBI lied to the FISC judge when they hid the bias and lies that made up the Steele dossier submitted as an “essential part” of evidence to get a FISA warrant. That the FBI’s latest allegation is a lie is an obvious Bayesian conclusion.


57 posted on 02/02/2018 6:27:07 PM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: zeestephen

Your number was exaggerated since the real number is 90% which is bad enough. Not even the Blacks voted 96% for Lady Macbeth.


58 posted on 02/02/2018 7:29:26 PM PST by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: arrogantsob

Re: “Your number was exaggerated since the real number is 90%...”

Trump got 4.07% of the vote in Washington D.C.

100% minus 4.07% equals 95.93%.”

95.93% rounds to 96%.

96% of the voters in Washington D.C. did not vote for Trump.

Once again, don’t take my word for it.

Look it up.


59 posted on 02/02/2018 7:51:54 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

I used the numbers provided in the article.


60 posted on 02/02/2018 7:57:32 PM PST by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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