Posted on 01/25/2018 6:10:33 PM PST by Red Steel
Senate Minority Whip Dick Durbin, D-Ill., a key senator in the talks to find an immigration deal, came out against President Trump's proposal for a grand bargain, in large part because it would curb legal immigration.
"Dreamers should not be held hostage to President Trump's crusade to tear families apart and waste billions of American tax dollars on an ineffective wall," Durbin said in a statement.
Trump's plan would put 1.8 million immigrants who came to the U.S. illegally as children on a decade-long path to citizenship. But that comes at a high price for Democrats, as he also wants $25 billion for a border wall and other security measures.
Trump also wants to end chain migration, the process by which immigrants can get their extended family members to America, and also wants to end the diversity visa lottery.
Durbin said that's all too much to ask.
"The White House claims to be compromising because the President now agrees with the overwhelming majority of Americans that Dreamers should have a pathway to citizenship," he said. "But his plan would put the administration's entire hardline immigration agenda — including massive cuts to legal immigration — on the backs of these young people."
Durbin also seemed to dismiss Trump's plan by saying senators from both parties are still working on their own proposal. Many progressive groups also came out against Trump's plan Thursday night.
However, Republicans have stressed that Congress needs to find a solution that Trump can also support, not just one that can survive a close Senate vote.
Fair enough.
No DACAs are going to get deported. Obama’s DACA policy is still the law of the land. Democrats have lost nothing.
Judge William Alsup rejected the Trump-Sessions DACA Memo because it did not create a new policy. Instead, the Trump-Sessions Memo just claimed that Obama’s DACA policy was unlawful and should not be enforced.
Judge Alsop simply advised the President and his Attorney General that they do not have the authority to decide what is, or is not, Constitutional.
Only the Judiciary has that power.
When Trump's case goes to the Supreme Court, he will lose 9-0.
Trump could end all this nonsense by writing an Executive Order that says something like this:
“According to the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965, the DACA kids are unlawfully present in the USA. Therefore, I order the Secretary of Homeland Security to remove all of them.”
Such an order would be absolutely consistent with the original legislation. The Administrative Procedure Act of 1946 does not allow any judicial review of an Executive Order like that unless it transparently violates the law.
Unfortunately, Trump is NEVER going to write an Executive Order that expels the DACA kids.
Much less never dealt much, I’ve never met one!
Re: “Democrats are fighting for chain migration”
Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965:
85% of Congressional Republicans voted for unlimited Chain Migration.
Only 74% of Democrats voted for it.
Unlimited Chain Migration would not have passed the House without the Republican vote.
Unlimited Chain Migration would have been filibustered to death in the Senate without the Republican vote.
That is completely wrong, Nailbiter.
Obama’s DACA policy is the law of the land, just like it was before Trump and Sessions claimed it was unconstitutional in September 2017.
Judge William Alsup rejected the Trump-Sessions claim because it was completely arbitrary and usurped the power of the Judiciary.
Nothing will change in March 2018.
The Supreme Court will reject the Trump-Sessions claim by 9-0.
Trump could sweep away Obama’s DACA policy with just a few sentences in a new Executive Order - but Trump refuses to do that.
It means, too bad you don’t have the parliamentary system. A recalcitrant legislature that can’t reach consensus with the government is up for reelection ahead of schedule. On the other hand, you do have regional representation, which means the legislators know who their constituency is, and that he better keep them happy.
Thank you for the considered answer. I agree that the Dems will see Chain Migration as the most important so that would mean funding for the Wall.
IMO, not funding the Wall would be a bigger “broken promise” the Dems and media would trumpet than letting the Dems win on Chain Migration. But the base would be infuriated if the Dems approved funding for the Wall, even for “the DACA kids”. They see the Wall as a symbol of racism and intolerance rather than one of security.
But, in either case, Trump wins something that the Dems would have otherwise never allowed to happen. To their base, they’ll be accused of folding and caving the same way we see the GOP. It will be a win for Trump.
I really would like to see Trump win on all three planks but it’s completely unrealistic with the fickle votes we have in the Senate, plus getting 8-10 crossovers. SOMETHING has to be sacrificed so I think you put the ball back in Schumer’s court and tell him it’s his choice on 2-out-of-3 or the kids get sent back and his base pillories him again for a longer shutdown.
Just a few blocks of standard issue Democrat duckspeak boilerplate.
The Democrats wanted no-strings amnesty today, in exchange for a promise that they would fund the border wall. Of course,they would cheat as soon as they got their amnesty, and the amnesty could not be reversed.
Trump called them on it. They don’t get immediate amnesty, just a path to citizenship, which CAN get cancelled if they cheat. Of course, they don’t want that.
Awesome news! LS, ImperatorRex are right.
Go back and read Trump’s first big deal with the city on new York and what he got for next to nothing because he played them and was into gory details...read it and start trusting him.
Amazing how they want to make all Americans feel like this is all our fault, we are the ones who are despicable and inhumane and that it is our duty to allow these lawbreakers citizenship when it was the rats and some gop politicians who made it possible for them to enter this country in the first place.
Trump twists Schumer’s nipples, concern trolls wring their hands, and Trump ends up with more leverage because the Dems have shown their hand...
#giveaninchtheywantamile
Lol. Most people including Durbin and Trump have not met one of them.
I have dealt with literally hundreds of illegal Mexicans in my work. I know many Mexican Americans and Mexican nationals and come from a family of many crossborder marriages.
I have a working knowledge of the many changing types of immigrants and know thaty those commg recently compared to those coming historically are very different. I have also watched the radicalzation take hold.
The Mexican culture is a beautiful one. But it has its problems caused by an oligarch elite which takes all the goodies to themselves.
The Mexican and South American immigrants are fiercly proud of their country and do not want to give up that identity.
Most do not want to assimilate here, but want to establish their own culture in a land they are now taught was stolen from them.
We keep big problems with amnesty or any retention
There are many other ways to help these people in their own countries with political pressures on their governments. That would be the most compassionate way to help because their families and culture is being destroyed by huge numbers of emigrants.
The people proposing solutions just don’t have enough information about the changng attitudes of the immigrants.
This deal pissed off all sides. Of course it also could have been fantastic brinkmanship by Trump knowing it was a bridge too far for the Rats. Who are biggest losers? DACA recipients. Who proposed a path? Trump. Who killed it? Rats. Let the mobs converge on Schumer / Pelosi post haste.
Trump has the Dems skunked and cornered.
If Trump gives the DACA”s ammnesty, the DACA”s owe their votes to Trump in the next election. Make it mandatory for the deal. Watch the Rats fight it until the death. Then deport them all.
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