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To: Gay State Conservative

What I have suggested them to be, is a second car in the family.

Most folks don’t commute further than 20 miles or so. They can use an electric to commute, and drive off-site too if they need. They can go to the supermarket or pick up other supplies. If it doesn’t make sense for a family, they should take a pass. If it does make sense do it.

Marketing them to replace cars with 300-500 mile ranges, was a losing proposition IMO.


17 posted on 01/15/2018 1:12:20 PM PST by DoughtyOne (A/O 01/12/18 DJIA business close 25,803.19, a 44.25% increase over the morning of 11/07/16.)
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To: DoughtyOne

And for the second car, light drive vehicle you describe, any old car would do.

I’m blessed with a company car. My personal cars has almost 300,00 miles. My wife’s has almost 200,000.

She does drive mostly around town for errands, but hers is the one we take for vacations and family trips. I can use the company car for personal, but her and I are the only ones who can drive it. We’re researching a replacement now. Electric ain’t in any sort of consideration. Probably a small to medium SUV.


47 posted on 01/15/2018 1:33:36 PM PST by cyclotic (Trump tweets are the only news source you can trust.)
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To: DoughtyOne

You are correct, as a second car, they almost make sense. I dive 3.5 miles, one way, to work.

The problem I face is at -20F, common here in Alaska, the Ecar is worthless.

My son purchased a used (2 Y/O) Nissan Leaf for 11K. New ones sell for **36K**. a 25K loss in 2 years isn’t something I’m interested in...


58 posted on 01/15/2018 1:43:59 PM PST by ASOC (Having humility really means one is rarely humiliated)
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To: DoughtyOne

And cold climates. and very hot climates.


82 posted on 01/15/2018 2:31:38 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: DoughtyOne
I purchased a Harley Fat Bob and a trailer. Hitched that to me F150 and traveled to San Diego. The F150 was parked. Trailer stored in the garage at the place I rented a room. 99% of my travel occurred on 2 wheels. 38 to 49 MPG. Lane splits to dodge the insanity of the bumper to bumper freeways. From Sept 2010 to Sept 2014, I added 30,000 miles on my F150. During the same interval I had my Kawasaki Versys, Harley XL1200R and Fat Bob accruing 20,000 miles EACH. The 1999 F150 was purchased USED in 2003 with 22,500 miles. Today in 2018, it just turned over 64,000 miles. The bikes haven't added a total of 200 miles (collectively) since Sept 2014. No time to enjoy them with 55 to 70 hour weeks. I want to change that latter situation before I'm too damn old and enjoy them.

As an aside, I could have easily substituted one of the Zero series electric bikes for commuting to work. I had reduced that to 7.5 miles one-way between Clairemont Dr/Balboa Ave and Genesee/Campus Point Drive. The electric would have been unsatisfactory for my weekend rides to Julian or a late Summer round trip San Diego <--> Pocatello. The Fat Bob yielded 49.5 MPG over the 1800+ miles round trip.

101 posted on 01/15/2018 4:01:45 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: DoughtyOne
Marketing them to replace cars with 300-500 mile ranges, was a losing proposition IMO.

Well I guess those over the road 18 wheelers they are beginning to make will be a mistake. 😎

109 posted on 01/15/2018 4:28:24 PM PST by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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