Posted on 01/15/2018 5:44:16 AM PST by Kaslin
I am absolutely delighted at the fake outrage over Donald Trump correctly assessing much of the Third World as a “Schumerhole.” It’s about time we had some real talk about immigration. For decades, the open borders establishment has tried to blind us with a blizzard of deceptive euphemisms designed to hide the truth. “Dreamers.” “Undocumented workers.” “Nation of immigrants.” Enough!
It’s all a scam designed to allow liberals to shut you up when you raise questions about why we should let our nation be flooded by outsiders – any questions. And they don’t even pretend to be coherent. One day we’re monsters for wanting to send illegals back where they belong, and the next we’re monsters for accurately describing the places they came from. We wonder why, if those Third World wonderlands totally aren’t what Trump said they are, their residents so eager to leave – and not to go back once they get here? And if Dreamers were wonderful hard workers who contribute so, so very much, why can’t they do all that contributing back where they came from?
Sheesh. Can you hacks please settle on a consistent narrative? It’s getting so it hard to even know which lie we’re being told without a program.
Apparently, now we are morally obligated to lie too. Remember, the s-hole furor isn’t because Trump was wrong. It was because he was indisputably right, but no one is supposed to say that because the truth doesn’t fit today’s narrative.
Well, it’s well past time to toss the narrative down what Trump said.
Part of the reason for the freakoutrage over Trump saying out loud what everyone knows, especially those of us who have spent significant time is the scuzzy corners of the globe, is because he came off looking too darn good at his telecast bipartisan meeting. Where was the dementia-addled half-wit of Michael Wolff’s book and a dozen long-distance diagnoses from #resist shrinks all hoping for a 25th Amendment Hail Mary?
Trump looked in charge and open to negotiation – he looked positively presidential. Gosh, they sure couldn’t let that image – or all the reports of companies issuing bonuses because of tax reform – monopolize the coverage. The media and the establishment needed a new crisis to change the discussion before Good Trump made a lasting impression on the masses.
So this comment got leaked by some Democrat or maybe by some Republican – when it comes to dealing with immigration, it’s often hard to tell the difference. After all, they share the same ultimate objective, if not the same motive. Democrats want to import a new electorate to replace the one that isn’t psyched to turn America into the same kind of socialist you-know-what that the illegals escaped from. The Republicans just want more servile workers to toil in the fluorescent light-lit fields of their corporate donor overlords’ warehouses.
The nice thing is that the leak indicates that they are despairing of Trump rolling over like they hoped and decided to blow it all up and hope he’d get the blame. Oh well.
After the big meeting, conservatives fretted that Trump seemed inclined to give away the store. He could have been folding, but then everything we learned about Trump over the last couple years indicates that he is no dummy – regardless of what his enemies fervently wish. It’s more likely that he understands the key consideration very, very clearly.
If Trump rolls on amnesty – that is, if he makes a DACA deal that doesn’t buy us real reforms today and not one of those “I’ll gladly pay you Tuesday” scams where Tuesday never comes – then we dump him.
We’re gone, Mr. President. Nothing personal, but if you shaft us like everyone else has shafted us, we walk. And your enemies will have beaten you – the same ones who stuck you in the back when they broke the confidence of your private meeting.
Now it looks like a DACA surrender is unlikely, especially in light of the feces-pit furor. Good. Maybe the Nice Trump at the meeting was a negotiation ploy. There’s a technique in negotiations where you wave the other side’s objective right in front of them, let them smell it, feel it just within their grasp, and when you get them so invested in the idea that it is about to be theirs, you snatch it back and lay your demands on them in the hopes they’ll feel they’re so close to success that they have to give in.
Or maybe Dreamer-hugger Trump was playing the good cop while Stephen Miller, who is infuriating the surrender caucus by being the proverbial monkey in the wrench, was being the bad cop. It could be a giant mind game with the mindless drones of the legislature.
Maybe. But it’s a dangerous game.
Outsourcing so much of the negotiations and details to the simpering wusses of the GOP House and Senate, who are yearning for some way to do exactly the opposite of what their voters elected them to do, was always risky. Sailor Suit Lindsey Graham and his pals came up with a plan that Trump rejected with the dung-depths comments. If they want a deal, they better come up with a solid bill where Trump gets some trophies. But at the end of the day, Trump gets to either sign on the line that is dotted, or not. And if a bunch of people who shouldn’t be here anyway don’t get to stay here, oh well.
“That would be too darn bad,” the conservatives would say, laughing hysterically.
In case you’re wondering, here’s my deal: Go home.
This leak-fueled bogus scandal over Trump accurately assessing the relative quality of different nations is an important reminder for the president that the people across the table (including some GOP types) are not his friends. They don’t wish him well. They do not want him to succeed. They desperately want him to blow this negotiation, to give them the zillions of new Democrat voters and to mortify his base of support. They want a win-win for them, and a lose-lose for the president.
Don’t be a lose-loser, Mr. President.
Don’t fall for the Nancy Pelosi football scam.
If Trump sells us out, will the media suddenly reward him with positive coverage, like they did for a few hours after the big meeting? Get real. If he signs a bill giving amnesty in exchange for some bull-hole promise of border security down the road, the first thing the media will do is find his outraged supporters. The second thing it will do is find some other outrage du jour and pump that wall-to-wall.
Trump said this.
Trump said that.
Trump puts ketchup on his steak. Oh wait, that actually was one of 2017’s EVERYTHING IS THE WORST THING EVER spasms.
It’s time for some truth, and Trump spoke it. I hope his failure to speak it at that public immigration meeting was a calculated one. “Dreamers.” Yeah, because all illegal aliens are dreaming of being hard-working, productive Americans. Except the problem is some dream of raping and murdering their hosts. Some dream of getting hole-faced and driving drunk. Some dream of living off the government with a lifestyle they couldn’t attain working back in the old homeland hole.
Some, not all. Some. And “some” is too damn many if you end up burying your little girl.
How about Normals here in America who are dreaming of an elite that will put their interests ahead of those of foreigners?
The Fredocon whiners contend we must hide the ugly truth behind soggy clichés about how hard-working immigrants who are always inevitably every single time hard-working assets to America no matter who they are. But here’s the thing – at best, guy who grew up in a place that left him uneducated and without skills comes to America and he takes that entry level job from an American. So what do we say to that American?
“Sorry, you’re racist for wanting a job.”
We aren’t supposed to tell the truth about the fact that some immigrants add no value to our country, and that some are actively bad. We also aren’t supposed to tell the truth about the fact that some countries are better than others. We aren’t supposed to have any say at all.
Immigration must serve our interests, the interests of Normal Americans, not the interests of Democrat pols who want more pliable voters. Not the interests of corporate hacks who want hordes of uncomplaining serfs. And not the interests of these foreigners. Good luck to them, but their countries are their problem, and we are not the solution.
Immigration must stop benefiting everyone but us Normal Americans.
And for that to happen, the lies have to stop. The deceit has to end. We need to call things by their true names. And sometimes, their true names aren’t nice.
Stay honest, Mr. President. Stay firm. Don’t get suckered. Keep your promises to the people who elected you. And keep telling the truth.
No. Next dumb ass question! Trump is as usual playing 3D chess while his enemies think they are playing checkers.
Trump the border, is WHY YOU WON.
This is the issue. Of all the issues. The border. And bringing jobs back to America, of course.
Those two, are the big issues to the people who have been supporting you forever.
Do not leave them now.
Fervent hope of liberals that he goes a bit soft to show he is not a “racist”, loses his political base and is rendered politically impotent. Hopefully Trump is not as psychologically needs as Bush. It was over for Bush when he tried to get chummy with Ted Kennedy.
And yet in spite of all these urgings from the peanut gallery to Donald, an uncanny hand seems to be upon him and his situation.
Who thought that Sh-tholegate would have arose only to redound on progressives to imperil legalization of DACA? Now they are at Donald’s mercy with that sacred cow. And he will pin the blame on progressives for making it into a Big Mac. Result: fading progressive support.
Donald seems to be more idea-driven than people-driven.
Trump has been solid...I don’t see a change
The question is will McConnell and Ryan go sloppy and soft on illegal immigration? They’re the one who will be working out a deal with the Democrats.
Frankly I’m sick of these phone-in filler op-eds.
Why don’t these people concentrate on the idiots GOP senators pushing this instead?
Oh yeah, that’s too hard and won’t get them that sweet click-bait cash.
Neither do I.
"Diversity" and the "strength" that is attributed to it has been redefined to mean some kind of "affirmative action" system for immigration policy. Our "values" are what is strengthened now, and not the country's true immigration needs.
It looks like the Colonel is busy advising God :-)
Some people won’t help America’s situation if they immigrate.
It used to be easier when we had church missions rather than welfare states. Church missions would offer a hand up. Not a hand out. Those who didn’t want to play ball our way were soon dissuaded from being here.
The modern socialist welfare state equates to a need to be more careful who comes.
Bump for later.
The well agree, you get what you want today, stroke of the pen. Next year we will start negotiating what my people get in return.
No wonder I never resonated with this Schlicter guy. He is retarded in thinking that Trump is as retarded as he is.
Schlichter gives Trump an A++ on the video meeting. I wasn’t quite as impressed. This is an actual exchange:
SEN. DIANNE FEINSTEIN: “What about a clean DACA bill now, with a commitment that we go into a comprehensive immigration reform procedure? ...”
TRUMP: “... I have no problem. ... We’re going to come up with DACA. We’re going to do DACA, and then we can start immediately on the phase two, which would be comprehensive.”
SEN. FEINSTEIN: “Would you be agreeable to that?”
TRUMP: “I think a lot of people would like to see that, but I think we have to do DACA first.”
REP. KEVIN MCCARTHY: “Mr. President, you need to be clear though. I think what Sen. Feinstein is asking here: When we talk about just DACA, we don’t want to be back here two years later. You have to have security, as the secretary would tell you.”
TRUMP: “But I think that’s what she’s saying.”
Here Trump is either hopelessly confused or else he is agreeing to Feinstein’s proposal for a clean DACA bill with a “commitment” to take up security and reform at some later date. This is the 0% result-a total fail in all respects.
It seems he may have walked back from this cliff but I’m not comfortable with his “DACA is a love bill” approach to the whole thing.
We need Trump to be a 2-term president. If he screws his base on immigration reform, not only will he lose his job. We all lose our country.
The question is will McConnell and Ryan go sloppy and soft on illegal immigration? They’re the one who will be working out a deal with the Democrats.
Those two clowns have been MIA from the beginning. They want amnesty guaranteeing a dem majority in perpetuity. They have demonstrated time and again that they lack even a modicum of leadership, and are happy to sit in the back of the room while the dems destroy our country. They just want the perks, and to hell with the electorate.
Trump is and will be rock ribbed about the wall and immigration. Yet the President’s fate on these issues is in the hands of Congress, not his own.
The Wall must get built if president Trump wants to insure his re-election it is a visible symbol, heck a tangible thing, of the government and elected officials keeping the faith with the American voters. It is way more important than keeping the DACAns here.
I'm surprised Senator Durbin breached the confidence of the closed door negotiations as it most likely will lead to having no deal and in overall strategy a win on DACA (keeping them here) is more important to the Democrats (its a minus to conservative voters). Senator Durbin blew up a process that looked like it had a chance of producing a suitable political outcome for his side. Most likely all this indicates is Durbin is as dumb as we suspect but usually even these dumb political types are very cagey savvy around these things.
The way I see this going down is the president getting to use this as a bat over the democrats head. He gave them six months to come up with something reasonable, they gave him a bill that satisfied none of his stated guidelines or even attempted to and then they sabotaged the negotiations with a contrived controversy that nobody cares about other than those who hate Trump and hate people who don't vote Democrat.
It all reminds me of when Yassir Arrafat was offered most of what he wanted and turned it down. I think the Democrats want the pictures of in the media of DACAns being deported. They still think the media has more influence than it does.
It strikes me as people living in the past with an outdated playbook refusing to pay attention to what is going on. In the course of them thinking they are playing the president it is them who is getting played.
Political masturbation Democrat style
1. The Democrats want to flood the country with immigrants -- both legal and illegal. That's why Obama signed the original DACA executive order in the first place.
2. The Republicans want to flood the country with immigrants -- both legal and illegal. That's why they never really took Obama to task for the original DACA executive order.
3. However ... The Republicans want to flood the country with immigrants without actually voting on an immigration reform law that promotes such a thing. This is because immigration reform is one of those "third rail" issues where the agenda of their donors conflicts with the agenda of their voters.
4. This is why the preference for the Republicans is to keep various forms of DACA executive orders in place indefinitely.
5. President Trump and AG Sessions called the GOP bluff on Item #4 when the Department of Justice issued its order last year setting a deadline for registered DACA immigrants to start preparing to go home.
6. It's the GOP -- not the Democrats -- who are in a politically untenable situation here. They don't want to vote on an immigration reform bill, but they want the immigrants here. Even worse, they found themselves in the politically disgraceful position of prioritizing immigration reform legislation that would benefit people here illegally ... after they failed to fix ObamaCare and haven't even addressed other pressing matters that affect U.S. citizens.
7. President Trump just gave them an "out" by sabotaging the DACA discussions in a way that makes it look like the Democrats are the ones standing in the way of getting anything done.
8. The Republicans can now enter the 2018 mid-term election cycle without dealing with the ramifications of an election reform vote. The only political consequences they would have faced were negative ones.
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