Posted on 01/12/2018 1:31:17 PM PST by nickcarraway
Julián Castro, former San Antonio mayor and former secretary of Housing and Urban Development, seen on Nov. 13, 2017, made a mostly true claim that 91 percent of DACA recipients are employed, in school or serving in the military. Photo: Edward A. Ornelas /San Antonio Express-News / © 2017 San Antonio Express-News Photo: Edward A. Ornelas /San Antonio Express-News Julián Castro, former San Antonio mayor and former secretary of Housing and Urban Development, seen on Nov. 13, 2017, made a mostly true claim that 91 percent of DACA recipients are employed, in school or serving in the military.
A “recent analysis” showed that 91 percent of Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) recipients are employed, in school or serving in the military.
— Julián Castro on Oct. 29, 2017, in a conference call reported in a PJ Media web post
Calling out Republicans, Julián Castro of Texas said research shows that nearly every young immigrant at risk of losing federal protection from deportation is employed, in school or serving in the military.
According to an October 2017 web post, the former Housing and Urban Development secretary was generally urging the Republican-led Congress to change federal law by offering a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants brought to the U.S. illegally as children or those who overstayed their visas.
The post on the conservative blog PJ Media says that in a conference call organized by an advocacy group, Castro specified that a “recent analysis” showed that 91 percent of Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) recipients, sometimes called “Dreamers,” are employed, in school or serving in the military. Critics, conversely, sometimes characterize the program as an illegal amnesty that harms the working class.
Castro, the former San Antonio mayor and 2020 Democratic presidential prospect, directed his call for DACA action at U.S. Rep. Will Hurd, R-San Antonio, as well as John Cornyn of Texas, the Senate majority whip, who, Castro said, “should make sure Congress passes a DREAM Act soon.”
So, was Castro, who joined the faculty of the University of Texas Lyndon B. Johnson School of Public Affairs in 2017, right about DACA recipients nearly all being in school, employed or in the military?
Castro, asked the basis of his claim, told Josh Baugh of the San Antonio Express-News by text that he drew his data points from an August 2017 web post by the left-leaning Center for American Progress about a national DACA survey.
That survey, we found, asked if DACA recipients had jobs or were in school. It didn’t ask if respondents were in the military.
The center’s post summarizing the results said Tom Wong, a political scientist at the University of California, San Diego, led the August 2017 survey of 3,063 DACA recipients. All told, the post says, the survey reached DACA recipients in 46 states including Texas, where 17 percent of respondents said they were living, according to the center’s separate post of the survey’s 22 questions and tallied results.
Asked if they were “currently employed,” 91.4 percent answered affirmatively, according to the results, with 55.9 percent of those respondents saying they hadn’t been employed “before DACA.” Another question asked if the respondent was currently in school; 44.9 percent responded affirmatively with 55 percent saying not, according to the results.
Wong told us by email that an additional sort of the “in school” and “currently employed” responses showed 97 percent of all respondents reporting being employed or enrolled in school — with 71.5 percent of those saying that they were in school reportedly pursuing a bachelor’s degree or higher.
The center said in its post that the results drew on the largest sampling of DACA recipients to date. Some perspective: the 3,000-plus respondents would have amounted to about 4/10ths of 1 percent of some 690,000 active DACA recipients reported at about that time by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services.
Wong conducted the survey in collaboration with the center and advocacy groups United We Dream and the National Immigration Law Center. At the survey’s release, that teaming drew criticism on the right-leaning Breitbart blog, where writer Neil Munro underscored an acknowledgment in the survey’s methodology section that “it is not possible to construct a valid margin of error” for the results because “there is no phone book of undocumented immigrants.” Munro counted this as an admission that the data was unreliable.
In the same vein, we wondered how Wong’s team confirmed that respondents were signed up for DACA; best we could tell, beneficiaries are not revealed by the government.
By phone, Wong reaffirmed the methodology described in the center’s post about the survey including that the partnering entities recruited the recipients surveyed online. Specifically, Wong said, the partners sent a web link to the survey to individuals on their respective email lists, also employing Facebook ads to ensure that self-identified DACA recipients from all over the country could participate.
Recognizing that non-DACA recipients could potentially click through the survey, the researchers reported taking steps to eliminate bias and other factors that might skew the results.
In the write-up posted by the center, Wong and his co-authors said that to prevent people from submitting multiple responses, they used a survey platform that prevented an IP address from submitting multiple responses.
Wong said he used another tactic to stop people from gaming the study: Near the beginning of the survey, each respondent was asked to say at which age she or he came to the U.S. Close to the end, the survey requested the year the respondent came to the U.S. If the age provided toward the survey’s start matched the year offered later, the results stayed in. If off by more than a year, Wong said, he threw out the response. In the end, he said, the responses of 3,063 people were tallied — with approximately 6,000 respondents’ surveys getting set aside for one reason or another.
We asked Wong to provide more detail perhaps enabling us to confirm the percentages in the results. Wong told us by email that he hadn’t talked to the study’s outreach partners “about what data can and can’t be released.” Wong also said he plans to write a book analyzing the first four years of his survey results, at which point the data he analyzes for the book will be made publicly available. “I know talk isn’t worth much, but I analyzed all of the data myself and stand by the results,” Wong wrote.
We separately asked Ernesto Castañeda, an American University expert on migration research, if he considers the Wong-led results to be valid.
Castañeda’s answer: Yes. Wong and his colleagues “carried out a valid study on a hard-to-reach population,” Castañeda said by email. “With more than three thousand respondents, this is an exceptionally large sample size.” Castañeda further said that researchers cannot always calculate margins of error for “unknown populations” like homeless and undocumented people, adding that the authors “took a number of steps to avoid duplicates or dubious data.”
Castañeda told us, too, that the study’s results appeared to be consistent with ethnographic research on DACA recipients and survey and interview research through 2016 by Roberto Gonzales, a Harvard University expert on immigration and social inequality, suggesting that DACA recipients made gains after getting that designation.
We also asked Jessica Vaughan of the conservative-leaning Center for Immigration Studies to evaluate the survey cited by Castro.
By phone, Vaughan told us that she would not be surprised that DACA recipients participate in the labor force at high rates because for many, employment was likely “a motivating factor to apply for DACA.” Vaughan speculated, though, that the survey overstated the employment and education rates of DACA recipients simply by being administered online and, she suggested, drawing from people with regular online access as well as individuals with the “time and inclination to fill out such a survey.” It’s reasonable, she said, to suppose that the same people would be more likely employed and well-educated.
Our ruling
Castro said a “recent analysis” showed that 91 percent of DACA recipients are employed, in school or serving in the military.
Some 97 percent of respondents to an August 2017 online survey reported being employed or in school. However, the researchers asked no questions about military service.
We rate this claim Mostly True: the statement is accurate but needs clarification or additional information.
Under the O administration DACA were allowed to serve in the military...not sure about now.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article161872568.html
You DACA go home now
The issue is what they are “employed” at!!!
WHEN A CHILD REACHES 18 It is imputed to that person that they know the law, They can vote and enter into contracts . So when a Mexican reaches 18 it is time to go home or you ratify the crime of being here illegally. There is no longer an excuse, Adios!! Amigo.
I’m sick and tired of the “kids” lie.
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It is an Internet survey! ANYONE could have responded, and it could’ve had participants who have an axe to grind in some way.
It is about as accurate as when we FReep a poll from a thread link here.
ABSOLUTELY not scientific as polls are known, period.
What is the percentage of literacy in Mexico?
And are we expected to believe that those who left have a higher rate than those who stayed?
91% of those that did the survey does not = 91% of those covered by DACA.
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Not to mention the 3.2 million relatives that followed who were also excluded from the survey.
75% are from families with at least one member on welfare is the figure I heard from a Harvard study......
Case proven. The vast majority of DACA criminals are (1) taking jobs from real Americans, or (2) increasing the burden on our educational system and increasing class sizes (which democrats always say will harm students). The ones who are neither in school nor working? They are either career criminals or adding to the welfare burden. Illegals are all, without exception, harmful to real Americans by their mere presence.
‘the responses of 3,063 people were tallied — with approximately 6,000 respondents’ surveys getting set aside for one reason or another’
But we have been told we have 800,000. So 3,063 is a good sampling? I did not do well in Statistics but something’s wrong here.
97% OF RESPONDENTS?
Sample size?
Demographics?
Hard to believe 11 million DACA schemers replied!
FAKE News.......
“Castro said a “recent analysis” showed that 91 percent of DACA recipients are employed, in school or serving in the military.”
Prove it. Then we can talk. But there’s nothing wrong with making each & every one go thru an individual case review.
25% can’t speak English.
46% more can barely speak any English.
That’s 71% that are very unlikely to be in our military.
That’s 71% that are rather unlikely to be holding down jobs with tax deductions taken out.
What were these steps? The steps they walked to go over to Mama Castro's La Raza office to verify the results with her?
Last evening's local news was all up in arms over the hours long wait time in the ERs due to the flu in Austin and San Antonio, TX. San Antonio had the longest wait. Wow! Imagine that! Of course, it couldn't be because San Antonio is full of illegals who had just gotten back from visiting with grandma back in Mexico and brought back all sorts of germs and virus to spread around the schools and grocery stores. This happens every year in January. Close down the border on Dec. 25 and we wouldn't have such a problem. 11 people have died from the flu around Austin.
Nowhere does it mention how many surveys were sent out, it only mentions how many they received back, and then of those surveys returned to them, they set aside many of them and did not include them in their results.
How many never even bothered responding to the survey?
The short answer: Hell no!
Precocious children. Going to college at age 9. Joining the army at age 13.
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