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(Update) Jeff Flake Backs Up Durbin - Says Trump Did Say Sh*thole
Jake Tapper ^ | January 12, 2018

Posted on 01/12/2018 8:53:52 AM PST by Pinkbell

We have an update on the previous thread, which I'll link below. Trump denied saying "sh*thole" in the meeting, Dick Durbin came out and said Trump said it:

“In the course of his comments, [President Trump] said things which were hate-filled, vile and racist,” Sen. Dick Durbin says of “sh*thole countries” comments. “He said these hate-filled things and he said them repeatedly.” http://cbsn.ws/2mngMu4

Of course, he then dramatized it to the extreme:

"The most disheartening thing to me is, my belief that, that was the first time words that hateful have been spoken in the Oval Office of the White House," Sen. Dick Durbin says http://cbsn.ws/2mngMu4

However, he said that Lindsey Graham was in the meeting and stood up to Trump and that other Republicans told him they didn't like Trump's words:

NEW: "Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina spoke up and made a direct comment on what the president said. I was very proud of him. It took courage for what he did," Sen. Dick Durbin says, firing back at Pres. Trump's denial of "sh*thole countries" comment

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/951836710199091201

Jake Tapper went and then talked to Flake who never misses an opportunity to trash Trump but apparently who wasn't in the meeting:

Sen. @JeffFlake to me just now:

"The words used by the president -- as related to me directly following the meeting by those in attendance -- were not 'tough,' they were abhorrent and repulsive. There is no good explanation."

Flake tells me before the @washingtonpost broke the story, he was told of the comments by @SenatorDurbin and a GOP Senator who attended the Oval Office meeting . 2/

Flake said he was told what CNN reported: that the president referred to African countries as "shithole countries," and of Haitians asked “Why do we need more Haitians? Take them out” —- meaning take them out of the deal.

See this thread:

So how and why is President Trump denying the remarks that he reportedly said?

I have some clarifying reporting from a source familiar the meeting. I want to start by saying that this does not make what he said any more acceptable, but it might shed some light on it all. 1/

The president did not refer to Haiti as a “shithole” country according to the source familiar with the meeting… though he DID say it about countries in Africa...

What happened, the source says, is there was a conflation of two different remarks by the president. 2/

First, when talking about “temporary protected status” countries as part of the immigration deal it was mentioned that Salvadorans, Hondurans and Haitians have that status. 3/

“Haitians?” the president said. “Why do we need more Haitians? Take them out” —- meaning take them out of the deal. 4/

Then in a separate part of the conversation when they were referencing the diversity visa lottery, President Trump referred to people coming from Africa as coming from “shithole countries.”

Again, I’m not saying this is better. Just that this is what happened, per my source. 5/

6/ So that might explain the kinda-pushback from POTUS today. -fin-

That was Jake Tapper. The White House didn't deny the statements last night, and it doesn't help that meeting was full of some Republicans who are conservative and like Trump (Graham likes Trump despite their disagreements) and who haven't come to his defense. Now would be the time for them to come forward.

Look, I don't like the term and have said that, but if he said it, he said it. It's best just to admit to it because denying it and getting rebuffed just gives you double the problem. The best thing to do is issue a statement immediately via Twitter or the White House clarifying his comments. It's not good to give the media a full night to call you racist without rebuttal.

The key to such a meeting is to assume the Democrats/RINOs will leak the whole thing to the press. Watch everything you say and possibly have someone video the meeting or record it so there is no deniability.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 115th; daca; durbin; flake; immigrationreform; jeffflake; littledickdurbin; profanity; trump
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To: Pinkbell

Why are they inserting provisions for Haitians into the DACA bill? I thought they just wanted a clean DACA bill.


61 posted on 01/12/2018 9:18:18 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: All

As usual, the Left want you to concentrate on the words, not the message because the Presidents’ message is CORRECT.


62 posted on 01/12/2018 9:18:18 AM PST by Maverick68
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To: Pinkbell

Where’s the boo-hoo girl?


63 posted on 01/12/2018 9:18:28 AM PST by wardamneagle
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To: Army Air Corps

From what I understand, Flake was NOT in this meeting.


64 posted on 01/12/2018 9:18:42 AM PST by Howie66 ("Tone down the tagline please." - Admin Moderator)
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To: Cvengr

And Obamodork never cussed I am certain

Not a smidgen of profanity, right...CNN?


65 posted on 01/12/2018 9:19:25 AM PST by Gasshog ( Fight climate change - Try beating the air and scream at the sky)
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To: bitt

Hey Clinton Foundation...where are the little girls and boys ?


66 posted on 01/12/2018 9:20:37 AM PST by stylin19a (Best.Election.of.All-Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever)
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To: bitt

67 posted on 01/12/2018 9:20:37 AM PST by bitt (We donÂ’t need an electric chair, we need electric bleachers.)
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To: Maverick68

What did you expect Flake was going to say? He is not Trumps friend.


68 posted on 01/12/2018 9:20:40 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: Howie66

Witch Illary pure as the driven snow would NEVUH curse in the Oval Office, right...NBC??


69 posted on 01/12/2018 9:20:54 AM PST by Gasshog ( Fight climate change - Try beating the air and scream at the sky)
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To: Pinkbell
If you want to piss off a liberal, tell the truth...
70 posted on 01/12/2018 9:21:27 AM PST by null and void ( The Martians fought global warming, all the plants died and the surface water froze solid....)
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To: Howie66

Ah, good old-fashioned gossip, then. Flake is now a gossipy teenaged girl.


71 posted on 01/12/2018 9:21:31 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Pinkbell

IF that’s what Trump said, then he’s telling the truth. Libs can’t handle the truth.


72 posted on 01/12/2018 9:21:37 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Lurkinanloomin
The Bush League Republicans want the final amnesty to cement in place the demographic changes they have made to the country against the will of the citizens.

The Swamp People can't win at the ballot box with the electorate as presently constituted, so they simply work to change the electorate. What an elegant solution to their dilemma.

73 posted on 01/12/2018 9:22:37 AM PST by Salvey
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To: Pinkbell

So?

I’ve been on both sides of the border in San Diego.

One side has a functional sewer system.

The other...

Quack Waddle.


74 posted on 01/12/2018 9:24:53 AM PST by HLPhat ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS" -- Government with any other purpose is not American.)
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To: Pinkbell
It's not good to give the media a full night to call you racist without rebuttal.

I agree. And the racist theme will continue during the weekend news cycle with MLK day being celebrated on Monday.

75 posted on 01/12/2018 9:25:09 AM PST by I want to know
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To: jospehm20

“turd world dumps”

Heh, yup!


76 posted on 01/12/2018 9:25:26 AM PST by LouieFisk
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To: Pinkbell

If these Morons are upset that these Countries might be offended, why did they come out an publicize comments from a private Meeting?

POTUS Trump didn’t say these things in a Public Speech or in a News Conference.


77 posted on 01/12/2018 9:25:36 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Tweet softly, but carry a big stick.)
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To: Pinkbell

I don’t care if he said it or not. It’s the truth either way!


78 posted on 01/12/2018 9:25:44 AM PST by EdnaMode
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To: Kickass Conservative

Bears repeating:

“If these Morons are upset that these Countries might be offended, why did they come out an publicize comments from a private Meeting?”


79 posted on 01/12/2018 9:27:13 AM PST by savedbygrace
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To: LouieFisk
"My preferred designations are 'hellholes' and '3rd world dumps', but that’s just my druthers."

Me, too! But I figure that since the German word is out of the bag, we might as well sling it around with everyone else for two terms. Every time bossy foreign people try to boss us around, we'll know what to say to them now.


80 posted on 01/12/2018 9:28:00 AM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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