Posted on 01/12/2018 8:53:52 AM PST by Pinkbell
We have an update on the previous thread, which I'll link below. Trump denied saying "sh*thole" in the meeting, Dick Durbin came out and said Trump said it:
“In the course of his comments, [President Trump] said things which were hate-filled, vile and racist,” Sen. Dick Durbin says of “sh*thole countries” comments. “He said these hate-filled things and he said them repeatedly.” http://cbsn.ws/2mngMu4
Of course, he then dramatized it to the extreme:
"The most disheartening thing to me is, my belief that, that was the first time words that hateful have been spoken in the Oval Office of the White House," Sen. Dick Durbin says http://cbsn.ws/2mngMu4
However, he said that Lindsey Graham was in the meeting and stood up to Trump and that other Republicans told him they didn't like Trump's words:
NEW: "Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina spoke up and made a direct comment on what the president said. I was very proud of him. It took courage for what he did," Sen. Dick Durbin says, firing back at Pres. Trump's denial of "sh*thole countries" comment
https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/951836710199091201
Jake Tapper went and then talked to Flake who never misses an opportunity to trash Trump but apparently who wasn't in the meeting:
Sen. @JeffFlake to me just now:
"The words used by the president -- as related to me directly following the meeting by those in attendance -- were not 'tough,' they were abhorrent and repulsive. There is no good explanation."
Flake tells me before the @washingtonpost broke the story, he was told of the comments by @SenatorDurbin and a GOP Senator who attended the Oval Office meeting . 2/
Flake said he was told what CNN reported: that the president referred to African countries as "shithole countries," and of Haitians asked “Why do we need more Haitians? Take them out” —- meaning take them out of the deal.
See this thread:
So how and why is President Trump denying the remarks that he reportedly said?
I have some clarifying reporting from a source familiar the meeting. I want to start by saying that this does not make what he said any more acceptable, but it might shed some light on it all. 1/
The president did not refer to Haiti as a “shithole” country according to the source familiar with the meeting… though he DID say it about countries in Africa...
What happened, the source says, is there was a conflation of two different remarks by the president. 2/
First, when talking about “temporary protected status” countries as part of the immigration deal it was mentioned that Salvadorans, Hondurans and Haitians have that status. 3/
“Haitians?” the president said. “Why do we need more Haitians? Take them out” —- meaning take them out of the deal. 4/
Then in a separate part of the conversation when they were referencing the diversity visa lottery, President Trump referred to people coming from Africa as coming from “shithole countries.”
Again, I’m not saying this is better. Just that this is what happened, per my source. 5/
6/ So that might explain the kinda-pushback from POTUS today. -fin-
That was Jake Tapper. The White House didn't deny the statements last night, and it doesn't help that meeting was full of some Republicans who are conservative and like Trump (Graham likes Trump despite their disagreements) and who haven't come to his defense. Now would be the time for them to come forward.
Look, I don't like the term and have said that, but if he said it, he said it. It's best just to admit to it because denying it and getting rebuffed just gives you double the problem. The best thing to do is issue a statement immediately via Twitter or the White House clarifying his comments. It's not good to give the media a full night to call you racist without rebuttal.
The key to such a meeting is to assume the Democrats/RINOs will leak the whole thing to the press. Watch everything you say and possibly have someone video the meeting or record it so there is no deniability.
The shitheads are exposing themselves again.
All these liberal senators are butthurt because Trump rejected them and their amnesty plan.
Perhaps Trump should have said. “Thanks to the corruption of the Clinton Foundation, Haiti really is a sh**hole”.
LOL
So Flake wasn’t in the meeting.
Haiti is a disease ridden trash dump
But dont tell anyone cuz Blacks live there.
SO WHAT if Trump said that? It is TRUE. Trump ALSO says that 2+2=4.
Same old story, nothing gets you in more trouble than the truth, IF he said it.
Trumps saying that he should record from now on to stop the BS.
I HOPE he called these countries s&&holes because they ARE.
“The words used by the president — as related to me directly following the meeting by those in attendance”
“related to me...by those in attendance...” IOW, he wasn’t there.
Who freaking cares?
Flake wasn’t there but knows what was said. He is aptly named.
It isn't "Charity" if it is done by confiscatory taxation. It is theft.
So what if he used the term “shithole countries” to describe shithole countries!
Which is usually what happens. The urgency to bash Trump takes precedence over careful and accurate description of events.
Trump has a good point. Why are we taking in people from these S***hole countries which haven’t taken care of their own and who don’t seek to adhere to American laws?
Besides a cigar used for........
So Flake is reporting what someone told him the President said. Where are any first hand accounts? What did Trump say that was “racist”?
Agreed.
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