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FBI Hacker Says Apple Are 'Jerks' and 'Evil Geniuses' for Encrypting iPhones
Motherboard ^ | January 10, 2018 | by Lorenzo Franceschi Bicchierai

Posted on 01/11/2018 10:34:05 PM PST by Swordmaker

An FBI forensic expert lambasted Apple for making iPhones hard to hack into.

Ever since Apple made encryption default on the iPhone, the FBI has been waging a war against encryption, complaining that cryptography so strong the company itself can’t break it makes it harder to catch criminals and terrorists.

On Wednesday, at the the International Conference on Cyber Security in Manhattan, FBI forensic expert Stephen Flatley lashed out at Apple, calling the company “jerks,” and “evil geniuses” for making his and his colleagues' investigative work harder. For example, Flatley complained that Apple recently made password guesses slower, changing the hash iterations from 10,000 to 10,000,000.

That means, he explained, that “password attempts speed went from 45 passwords a second to one every 18 seconds,” referring to the difficulty of cracking a password using a “brute force” method in which every possible permutation is tried. There are tools that can input thousands of passwords in a very short period of time—if the attempts per minute are limited, it becomes much harder and slower to crack.

"Your crack time just went from two days to two months," Flatley said.

(Excerpt) Read more at motherboard.vice.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: applepinglist; fake; fakenews; fbi; overreach; privacy
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To: cba123
Oh, incidentally, Apple directly employs ~80,000 people in the US and indirectly provides US jobs for about 2 million more

Two million U.S. jobs. And counting.

The numbers tell the story. Apple is one of the biggest job creators in the United States, responsible for two million jobs in all 50 states. Last year, we spent over $50 billion with more than 9,000 U.S. suppliers and manufacturers. Since we launched the App Store in 2008, U.S. developers have earned over $16 billion in App Store sales worldwide. And we’re just getting started.


21 posted on 01/11/2018 11:50:09 PM PST by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you racist, bigot!)
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To: cba123
Bring the production back to the US.
... But they really do need to come back to America. Other voices need to be heard.
Computers too. Bring back production of so many items, to the US.

You're complaining about the wrong company! Apple is the only company making computers and smart phones here, and not in communist China. People need to spread the word to stop using Samsung phones, which are produced in Samsung owned factories in communist China with communist Chinese labor employed directly by Samsung. Apple does not employ any workers in China to make products; their only workers there are salespeople. Surprises me as to how ignorant people are when they beat the drum against Apple, when Apple is making products here in the USA, but not countless other companies.

22 posted on 01/12/2018 12:15:18 AM PST by roadcat
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Agreed


23 posted on 01/12/2018 12:33:42 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: roadcat

I don’t agree with you on that.

Apple doesn’t technically make the phones. Yes I agree. But Apple sells the phones, made as iPhones, which ARE made in China. They are made by a company from Taiwan, which makes them in Communist China, but they are Apple phones.

Samsung phones also, yes they are made in Communist China. But so are iPhones.

Same-same. Basically.

Both are made in China. Basically.

At least that is sure my understanding of things.


24 posted on 01/12/2018 12:35:22 AM PST by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: Reno89519

where in the constituency does it say we need a federal secret police ?

the FBI is way out of line here. The FBI is a rouge agency and should be disbanded.

drain the swamp


25 posted on 01/12/2018 1:19:15 AM PST by vooch (America First Drain the Swamp as)
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To: Swordmaker

The main reason I think Apple are jerks is because I can’t simply drag and drop music into an iPhone.


26 posted on 01/12/2018 2:44:25 AM PST by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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To: Swordmaker

Spokesman for totally corrupt FBI....DOJ


27 posted on 01/12/2018 2:51:50 AM PST by stockpirate (Give Peas a Chance)
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To: Swordmaker

“We want you Big Brother” David Bowie 1984


28 posted on 01/12/2018 2:54:14 AM PST by stockpirate (Give Peas a Chance)
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To: Swordmaker
Flatley complained that Apple recently made password guesses slower, changing the hash iterations from 10,000 to 10,000,000.

So just by extending the lock screen password from 4 characters to 6 characters is a crime against the country?

He's nuts, and I don't want to spend the time to read more of this Vice article.

Wait until Flatley finds out that serious folks are using 2048 bit encryption. Try to brute force that password, at least in the next few years.

And then technology will march on.

29 posted on 01/12/2018 3:00:34 AM PST by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: DoughtyOne; Swordmaker
Agree DO. Given the recent sorry history of the FBI, I don’t want those POS SOBs knowing ANYTHING at all about any of us. The other poster was probably right on. All these ass hats 🎩 do, is make sure hate crimes are properly worded.
I used to have a lot of respect for the FBI. Those days are gone, and I may never get it back. 👎
30 posted on 01/12/2018 3:14:49 AM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Mark17
I used to have a lot of respect for the FBI. Those days are gone, and I may never get it back. 👎

#MeToo.

31 posted on 01/12/2018 3:33:34 AM PST by Boomer (Leftism is a Cancer on Society; Pray for a Cure!)
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To: Boomer
👍
32 posted on 01/12/2018 3:44:10 AM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Swordmaker
It must be that the guys in the FBI, and the news media for that matter, never heard of Phil Zimmermann and the story of Pretty Good Privacy encryption -- which is still the gold standard encryption for personal private use.

The difference, I suppose, is that the government persecuted Zimmerman for many years, threatening imprisonment, etc. Now all they can do is call Apple stupid names.

I suppose that's a considerable improvement.

33 posted on 01/12/2018 5:01:22 AM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: Swordmaker
harder to catch criminals and terrorists

The FIB is full of criminals, so they need to pull the plank out of their own eye.

Hey FIB, your track record on catching crooks and terrorists before the fact is poor anyway. I’ll take my chances. I prefer liberty over your polticized spying. Sod off.

34 posted on 01/12/2018 5:06:38 AM PST by bkopto
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To: Swordmaker

And, if the gubmint wasn’t so keen to collect so much on all the citizens, it never would have come about.....


35 posted on 01/12/2018 5:45:59 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone? I think Trump may give it back...)
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To: Reno89519

“Doing business in the US is a privilege, not a right. With it comes some responsibility and accountability.”

The 4th Amendment is a Right, not a privilege.

It comes down to Law.


36 posted on 01/12/2018 6:19:21 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Reno89519
Doing business in the US is a privilege, not a right

Really? So, an American should have to ask the government for permission to go into business?

Are you sure you're on the right site?

Given a legal, public court order or warrant, Apple should make the device accessible, same with other manufacturers.

No. Apple should not be required be law, which is what it would take, to make their product's security purposefully weak, just to please the feral government. Some of are quite happy with the security of Apple products, and prefer them to stay that way. It's not even particularly government criminals that I'm particularly worried about, but rather your garden variety criminal without the power of the state behind him, who might steal my phone and then use the information contained therein for nefarious purposes, such as identity theft among other things.

37 posted on 01/12/2018 6:42:34 AM PST by zeugma (I always wear my lucky red shirt on away missions!)
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To: raybbr
The main reason I think Apple are jerks is because I can’t simply drag and drop music into an iPhone.

Yeah, I hate the fact that there is no Linux support at all for iPhones that I'm aware of. Sucks. I actually have a Win-7 VM that has just one reason for existing. I use it to back up my phone prior to a major update. The whole 'itunes' thing is annoying in the extreme to me. Doesn't stop me from using an iPhone, but yeah, it's annoying.

38 posted on 01/12/2018 7:01:54 AM PST by zeugma (I always wear my lucky red shirt on away missions!)
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To: vooch
The FBI is a rouge agency and should be disbanded.

Is that a reference to Hoover's cross-dressing habits?

39 posted on 01/12/2018 7:27:56 AM PST by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building)
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To: Reno89519

I disagree. The government has no given right to be able to access everything anytime they want.

Let them get a warrant for each and every individual device they want to get into and put an end to this surveillance state that was used to try to overthrow our last Presidential election.

Our surveillance state is too dangerous and too powerful to trust.


40 posted on 01/12/2018 8:49:22 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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