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This jobs report stunner is EXACTLY why welfare reform has to start right now
Conservative Review ^ | Jan 5 2018 | Chris Pandolfo

Posted on 01/06/2018 4:28:14 AM PST by smileyface

...But there is one detail in the jobs report that suggests there is still room for improvement. The labor force participation rate, which is a measure of how many people are employed or actively seeking work compared to the whole population (not just those looking for work), is 62.7 percent. According to the report, this is “unchanged over the month and over the year.” In total numbers, there are 96,230,000 Americans who are not in the labor force, which is an increase of 456,000 since President Obama’s last year in office. ...

The Trump administration is likewise set to release guidelines for requiring Medicaid recipients to work, permitting state governments to add work requirements to their Medicaid programs for the first time...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: jobs; participationrate; welfare
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To: A_Former_Democrat

Every immigrant lowers every Americans earning power by 1/100,000,000(approx US workforce). It adds up. The silver spoon crowd doesn’t get it.


21 posted on 01/06/2018 6:02:28 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: smileyface

In an honest employment rate computation, those receiving a substantial portion of their income from welfare programs would be the first to be included in the calculation. But our government pretends that welfare recipients are, somehow, not unemployed.

We spend $1 trillion plus annually on means tested poverty programs. The only way to balance our budget is to make significant cuts in that trillion dollar budget item through welfare to work programs.


22 posted on 01/06/2018 6:05:54 AM PST by Will88
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To: sodpoodle

Saw that in action when I worked for Subsidized housing in the late eighties and through the nineties.

The names have been changed to obscure the not-so-innocent.

City police officer, Juan Valdez, buys a city house with first time buyers incentive and police dept incentive to “live in the city”

Price: 62,000
City and Police Dept Incentive: 7500 (combined)
Total sale price $54,000
He gets cash back on closing around $1,500
Rents a p.o. box and states it is his “mother’s” address and he lives with mama.

“rents” house out to Baby Mama, Lolita Rodrigez and her children: Juan Valdez, Jr. Lolita Jr. and Marcos Valdez

Lolita is on Section 8, Social Services TANF, EBT, HEAP, WIC, Medicaid and a myriad of assorted charity services.

Juan Valdez, Senior, the police officer, has a mortgage of
approx. $450, nothing down, moves in with Lolita, pockets his salary of around $54,000 (back then that was quite a good living) whilst the gov’t pays for all utilities and then some plus pays him $850 a month in rent

I pointed this out to an administrator and she sais “Just keep the checks rolling and look the other way. . .we don’t get paid administrative fees (from the feds) by cutting people off the program.”

Soon after I resigned.


23 posted on 01/06/2018 6:06:19 AM PST by AbolishCSEU (Amount of "child" support paid is inversely proportionate to mother's actual parenting of children)
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To: sodpoodle
4. The guy rents out house to his girlfriend with his 2 kids.

That isn't how Section 8 works. Landlords don't get to choose their tenants and tenants have to compete with other section 8 recipients for properties.

24 posted on 01/06/2018 6:06:34 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: AbolishCSEU

meant to roll the cash back at closing into the sale price:

total price: 53,000


25 posted on 01/06/2018 6:08:22 AM PST by AbolishCSEU (Amount of "child" support paid is inversely proportionate to mother's actual parenting of children)
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To: mac_truck

Believe me they do. Saw city cops do this in Rochester NY

They buy a house “for themselves” and then immediately rent it out to their baby mama.

I worked for Section 8, did the FMR calculations and also owned rental property of my own. (in which I was not allowed to rent to a S8 participant as a lowly clerk—conflict of interest) have a big story about fighting the government on that one, but I digress.


26 posted on 01/06/2018 6:10:00 AM PST by AbolishCSEU (Amount of "child" support paid is inversely proportionate to mother's actual parenting of children)
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To: sodpoodle
Without exaggeration, you have just outlined the typical hispanic lifestyle. I've known so many, and yes some of them are hard workers but off the books. So they collect everything you mentioned PLUS their under the table wages. And don't forget free school lunches and WIC coupons which stretch those EBT dollars.
 
27 posted on 01/06/2018 6:15:18 AM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (CNN is fake news.)
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To: central_va

Good points but several of my students are working 30 hours a week and still getting good grades. Also, our college requires a four month paid coop between a student’s junior and senior year. Some of our business students make $10,000 to $15,000 in the summer. Our power engineering students working for a paper mill or power plant (with overtime) can make up to $20,000 during the summer.
The business students and power engineering students have 95% job placement in their fields within three months of graduation. But then our college is not a place for dabblers; students declare a major when they enter as freshmen.


28 posted on 01/06/2018 6:17:59 AM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: smileyface

On Fox Business yesterday, while discussing the jobs report, the discussion turned to pot. It seems, and it’s never reported, employers are unable to fill job vacancies because many qualified applicants can’t pass drug tests for employment. Seems the same thing is going on with the military.


29 posted on 01/06/2018 6:19:00 AM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: smileyface

“The Trump administration is likewise set to release guidelines for requiring Medicaid recipients to work, permitting state governments to add work requirements to their Medicaid programs for the first time...”

I don’t mind the concept, but it is honest to ask where the jobs are for some who are in the Medicaid category - age 45 and older but not yet Medicare eligible, schooling to 12th grade or less, long term unemployed. That group is likely to be bypassed, even in a push to employ those on Medicaid, with employers preferring younger persons.

Among Medicaid recipients, 10% are classified as elderly (age 65 or over but with no working credits for social security & Medicare), 46% are youth under the age of 19, 13% are classified as disabled, .6% are institutionalized, 1.6% are single moms under age 19 and older, 7% are working full time, and 5% working part time. That the 1.6% of recipients who are single moms not working, and another 16% who together might possibly be employable. And among them will be those between age 45 & 65 I noted above, whom I imagine will by bypassed by employers allot.

I applaud the idea, but have reservations about how much it will be possible to make the “work for Medicaid” work in a large, practical sense. Our society and work structure is on it’s own signalling the continued destruction of many jobs that will be the only jobs that many on Medicaid will qualify for.


30 posted on 01/06/2018 7:23:28 AM PST by Wuli
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To: sodpoodle

wow


31 posted on 01/06/2018 8:18:11 AM PST by smileyface (Things looking up in RED PA! I love President Trump!)
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To: Gen.Blather

Another big racket is people on disability. I’ve known quite a few people claiming disability and working on the side.


32 posted on 01/06/2018 8:34:24 AM PST by aquila48
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To: aquila48

Yep I work with a woman whose husband is “disabled” but she runs a dog breeding business on the side and her husband, with his bad back is able to hoist 80 lb bags of dog food and muck out the kennels for her while she works at her regular gig during the day.


33 posted on 01/06/2018 8:46:23 AM PST by AbolishCSEU (Amount of "child" support paid is inversely proportionate to mother's actual parenting of children)
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To: sodpoodle

Excellent breakdown of institutionalized scam.

$75k PLUS all the free time in the world.

It’s what you get when compassion gets delegated to the government.


34 posted on 01/06/2018 8:58:38 AM PST by aquila48
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To: Wuli

“Our society and work structure is on it’s own signalling the continued destruction of many jobs that will be the only jobs that many on Medicaid will qualify for.”

They could do the jobs that most illegals come here to do. Mow lawns, clean houses, bus tables, pick crops. Arguing that ONLY 25% of those people would be able to do that is not an argument against doing it.

Reducing that program by 25% would be a huge success.


35 posted on 01/06/2018 9:09:18 AM PST by aquila48
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To: central_va

An unemployment rate of 4.5% in say 2008 was said to be full employment and those you listed plus those in transition were the un employed.


36 posted on 01/06/2018 9:15:20 AM PST by Thibodeaux (2018 is looking good)
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To: smileyface

I love watching Judge Judy. It seems like Every other Person standing before her is on SS Disability or Welfare.

There is no Parade of Wheelchairs into the Courtroom, just a bunch of People who scam the system or are just plain lazy that the Taxpayer gets to compensate.

A surprising number of these People are young and the funny part to me is that many of the Commercial Sponsors of the Show are Disability and Ambulance chasing Lawyers.

I’m sure Judge Judy is a dutiful New York Democrat, but she lays into these People like no other. She asks them why they don’t have a Job and why they made such bad decisions.

They stand there like a Deer in Headlights while she reminds them that they are being supported by the Taxpayers

I know it’s just entertainment, but it’s nice to see these People called out on their “I’m owed a living” Taxpayer funded lifestyle.


37 posted on 01/06/2018 9:15:41 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Tweet softly, but carry a big stick.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

UMMM....SS is NOT a disability check. It is repayment of what the government stole from you and did NOT invest.


38 posted on 01/06/2018 9:26:37 AM PST by Safetgiver (Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: aquila48

“They could do the jobs that most illegals come here to do.”

1. The illegals doing those jobs WILL NOT BE deported.

2. “Could do” and likely to be hired to do are not the same thing. Ask any “white male” older than 50 and under age 64 and out of work for the last three years. There are more than enough younger citizens out of work who are more likely to be hired first, if at all.


39 posted on 01/06/2018 10:07:51 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Safetgiver

SS disability is seperate , look it up.
Many scammers figure out how to get it so they don’t have to work


40 posted on 01/06/2018 12:10:06 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I don't want better government; I want much less of it.)
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