“Once you tried to take me to task as if I had said Jesus was “plan b”. I hadn’t.”
Yes you did.
“It doesn’t. Martyrs are not asked to sacrifice themselves to redeem man.”
Never said they were redeemers, that was your hangup.
“I addressed dying to redeem man. You are addressing dying to express devotion to God. While that is a decent thing to address in the proper context, I had not addressed that aspect of Jesus death. Why then did you in rebuttal?”
Unfortunately you didn’t “address that glory of Jesus’s death.”
“Act 7:54 When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth.
Act 7:55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,
Act 7:56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.
Act 7:57 Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord,
Act 7:58 And cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man’s feet, whose name was Saul.
All well and good, but completely off topic.”
The Truth is not compartmentalized, it is one and does not disagree with itself.
“I know this. You stated you would sacrifice yourself. For what? That is wholly misguided. It is why I raised the issue of Christians not being required to sacrifice their lives rather than stand up to evil. Even the Angels of God took action to move Lot and his family out of Sodom, rather than allow the mob to kill them. You should know this.”
By this reasoning, the martyrs indeed did not walk in Christ as you imagine....where was God’s intervention for them?
“I’ll let God be the judge of that. The Beast has no power over Him.”
So, God is not allowing the beast to reveal himself so that complete darkness that changes itself in the false light, won’t be forever judged? Sounds like an eternal struggle, by your dogma, with no end. By your mantra, we will always be bound in eternal conflict with the beast....ergo, darkness.
“While I believe this, I would not toss it out in a discussion with another Christian FReeper. It’s just condescending and irrelevant to the issues at hand.”
I’m pretty sure very few FReeper’s are following this thread anymore....????
“Being a prepper will not save you and yours, only Faith, Hope and Love.
This is mindless pap. We should do what we can to prepare to take care of ourselves. When that runs out or times overtake us, then sure, we should fall back on faith in God.”
So, until then, you have no need now to have faith in God, only when it is time to “fall back on faith in God.”
It may have been very unintentional for you to have revealed this, but this indicates a religious man, instead of a spiritual man.
Again, I’ll pray for you....
9 Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
11 Give us this day our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
I would take my time to respond to you again, but you’re openly lying now in addition to exhibiting a lack of ability to grasp different concepts.
Despite this, you tried to close out here by telling me you’re praying for me again. I’d rather you not, if you’re going to openly lie as you have here.
Then printing the Lord’s Prayer to wind up with.
You show the classic signs of taking liberties with the truth, and then wrapping yourself in the cloak of Christianity.
Wow.
Ah... no thanks.
I wish you the best, but I’m not going to continue dealing with a person revealed to be very troubled.