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So Christ, whom had all the resources of heaven at his disposal, committed suicide by submitting to his death on the cross?

So Christ, who initially sent his disciples out with swords, and then his disciples had no swords, is not sending a message as to the later times for Israel and all true Christians as to whom they must trust in?


34 posted on 01/04/2018 5:59:50 PM PST by Puckster (70 weeks of Daniel)
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To: Puckster
So Christ, whom had all the resources of heaven at his disposal, committed suicide by submitting to his death on the cross?

As a Christian, you understand why Jesus was born to Mary (a virgin). You understand why he ministered to men on earth.  You understand why he had to die for them as typified by the sacrificial lamb going back to Adam, once Adam was cast out of the Garden of Eden.  That sacrificial lamb ritual had no sigificance once our sacrifiial lamb Jesus Christ was crucified and died.  You are not a sacrificial lamb.  

You are not asked to die for mankind, to purchase their souls back.  Jesus Christ had to die.  He came to die.  He could not fight it.  It was his duty to submit to it.

Yes, we are asked to model our lives after Christ, but we do not have to sacrifice self, our spouses, our children, our moms, dads, brothers, sisters, other family members, friends, associates, neighbors, town, region, state, or nation to evil.


Dennis Prager is very firm on this.  Do we let Hitler take over the world?  Is that a Chrisitan's mandate?  No, emphatically no!  It is evil to allow an evil such as Hitler and his minions to fluorish unchecked.

Yes, not only did Jesus have all the resources of the universe at his disposal, but even His angels from heaven had to keep themselves in check.  They could not intercede on His behalf.  Jesus was not abandoned here.  A part of the host from heaven was there, with Him looking on in horror, and they could do nothing.  They went through that for us.  

We can and must do something in good conscience, when we have the power to check evil.  And we should prepare for it in advance.


So Christ, who initially sent his disciples out with swords, and then his disciples had no swords, is not sending a message as to the later times for Israel and all true Christians as to whom they must trust in?

When sin first crept into heaven, did God simply fall on His knee and allow Satan to take over?  Of course not.  Neither should you here.

God allowed Lot's wife to be struck dead.  He was with David when he took down Goliath.  He was with the Children of Israel as they fought battles.  He is with righteous causes on the battlefield now.

God instructed Noah to build a boat.  He was instructed to only let the righteous on.  That turned out only to be his family.  Was that evil?  No.

Will a time come when we will be overwhelmed and have to stand in judgement before evil non God-fearing men?  At some points in history, yes.

That is a time when we will only be able to stand there and witness.  We will be representing the Holy Trinity there.  We will speak with authority, clarity, love, and understanding at that point.  Our fate will be sealed.  We will die.

At this point as we stand there, we will be talking to God in our heart and mind.  We will ask for forgiveness, and praise God for His dedication to us.

In those last moments of our life, we can have inner peace knowing that we will be pure as the driven snow for our last few minutes, having confessed everything, expressed our love and faith in God, and our willingness to die being faithful to Him.

We will still be saved by the blood of Jesus Christ, but we will die in perfection before God.

The power of evil may be able to cause us pain at that time.  We will feel it, but be assured of salvation.  We will be at peace.

These things are our duty.     



35 posted on 01/04/2018 8:42:28 PM PST by DoughtyOne (McConnell, Ryan, and the whole GOPe are dead to me. Are Alabamans tired of winning?)
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To: Puckster
So Christ, whom had all the resources of heaven at his disposal, committed suicide by submitting to his death on the cross?

As a Christian, you understand why Jesus was born to Mary (a virgin). You understand why he ministered to men on earth.  You understand why he had to die for them as typified by the sacrificial lamb going back to Adam, once Adam was cast out of the Garden of Eden.  That sacrificial lamb ritual had no sigificance once our sacrifiial lamb Jesus Christ was crucified and died.  You are not a sacrificial lamb.  

You are not asked to die for mankind, to purchase their souls back.  Jesus Christ had to die.  He came to die.  He could not fight it.  It was his duty to submit to it.

Yes, we are asked to model our lives after Christ, but we do not have to sacrifice self, our spouses, our children, our moms, dads, brothers, sisters, other family members, friends, associates, neighbors, town, region, state, or nation to evil.


Dennis Prager is very firm on this.  Do we let Hitler take over the world?  Is that a Chrisitan's mandate?  No, emphatically no!  It is evil to allow an evil such as Hitler and his minions to fluorish unchecked.

Yes, not only did Jesus have all the resources of the universe at his disposal, but even His angels from heaven had to keep themselves in check.  They could not intercede on His behalf.  Jesus was not abandoned here.  A part of the host from heaven was there, with Him looking on in horror, and they could do nothing.  They went through that for us.  

We can and must do something in good conscience, when we have the power to check evil.  And we should prepare for it in advance.


So Christ, who initially sent his disciples out with swords, and then his disciples had no swords, is not sending a message as to the later times for Israel and all true Christians as to whom they must trust in?

When sin first crept into heaven, did God simply fall on His knee and allow Satan to take over?  Of course not.  Neither should you here.

God allowed Lot's wife to be struck dead.  He was with David when he took down Goliath.  He was with the Children of Israel as they fought battles.  He is with righteous causes on the battlefield now.

God instructed Noah to build a boat.  He was instructed to only let the righteous on.  That turned out only to be his family.  Was that evil?  No.

Will a time come when we will be overwhelmed and have to stand in judgement before evil non God-fearing men?  At some points in history, yes.

That is a time when we will only be able to stand there and witness.  We will be representing the Holy Trinity there.  We will speak with authority, clarity, love, and understanding at that point.  Our fate will be sealed.  We will die.

At this point as we stand there, we will be talking to God in our heart and mind.  We will ask for forgiveness, and praise God for His dedication to us.

In those last moments of our life, we can have inner peace knowing that we will be pure as the driven snow for our last few minutes, having confessed everything, expressed our love and faith in God, and our willingness to die being faithful to Him.

We will still be saved by the blood of Jesus Christ, but we will die in perfection before God.

The power of evil may be able to cause us pain at that time.  We will feel it, but be assured of salvation.  We will be at peace.

These things are our duty.     



36 posted on 01/04/2018 8:43:04 PM PST by DoughtyOne (McConnell, Ryan, and the whole GOPe are dead to me. Are Alabamans tired of winning?)
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To: Puckster

Matthew 10:34-36
“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth.
I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.

Luke 22:38
The disciples said, “See, Lord, here are two swords.”
“That’s enough!” he replied.


38 posted on 01/05/2018 3:50:53 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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