Posted on 12/31/2017 8:58:50 AM PST by oh8eleven
The National Transportation Safety Board investigating the accident, which killed three people and injured more than 50 others, is still trying to determine the probable cause and prevent such accidents in the future.
It appears that there were two people in the lead locomotive control cab of the train who were both injured and hospitalized: an instructor engineer, and another engineer who was learning the territory and qualifying to operate the train along the route.
(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-seattle-amtrak-crash-20171222-story.html
Engineer of Amtrak train was not on cellphone at time of crash
My guess is personnel error, for what ever reason. Every train in this country is operated by a union member.
The route had been run MANY times in preparation for the inaugural service run. The speed limits were well known and rehearsed.
Chalk this one up to stupid.
Don’t know, but the locomotive did not belong to Amtrak, it was the property of the States of Oregon and Washington, the owners of the “Amtrak” Cascade.
corrections to my 102 post. All major railroads are fully union and have been for decades. Some of the small tourist type railroads, such as the Cass Scenic Railroad in WV or the Denver and Rio Grand narrow gage railroad in CO, may be non union.
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Well, no surprise. Washington and Oregan are near-total leftist wipes!
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This is a cover-up.
It was terrorism, not speed that caused the derailment.
Didn’t Q post something about how this accident was a reprisal for an extraction on 17 Dec?
That’s one theory.
That’s a fair enough point.
It’s just I’d reckon BNSF would insist on dealing with Amtrak in this case.
Other states, running *commuter* train operations, have had outfits such as Keolis contracted to run them. Results have been mixed (see MBTA).
thanks
Took me back to when us Chevy folks would get into "debates" with the Ford folks - One of our slaps was "Speed kills, play it safe and buy a Ford"....maybe someone needs to find out who built the drive train and sue them for making it too fast.......
With strange plane crashes I’m always suspicious of blaming it on the pilot or air traffic controller. But in this case I’ll play devil’s advocate.
Was the engineer a gambler? If so, he might have thought it would be easy to win a bet about how quickly he made the run. But of course, things like this tend to be shrouded in mystery, which fans the fires of suspicion.
They certainly need an automated roof on speed at each sector. Going too slow doesn’t normally kill. They sure tell us car drivers that time and again and again and again.
Really. What is your explanation for why they were going 81mph into a POSTED 30 MPH curve on a high profile inaugural run ?
IF it was found out that an official at AMTRAK ordered the engineer to ignore the speed limit, do you think that would change ?
Seems like an admission by AMTRAK, right there in the article.
Very funny(/sarc). The reason for the crash had nothing to do with hanky panky in the cab.
The only sense in which that occurred was that the official in charge of the 'run' may have told the engineer that if he didn't make it on time, he was going to shove a big log up his caboose.
Do you think that the engineers were not briefed on the fact that there was a sharp curve with a 30MPH SPEED LIMIT ? It's not like the 'route' they were taking was something that they could 'choose' amongst a host of other options. It's not like there are no maps to look at before the HIGHLY PUBLICIZED INAUGURAL RUN. It's not like the route had never been taken before (they had two practice runs).
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