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Iranians take to streets in biggest protest since crushed 2009 demonstrations
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/dec/30/iran-protests-trump-tweets ^ | Dec. 30, 2017 | Saeed Kamali Dehghan and Emma Graham-Harrison

Posted on 12/30/2017 11:37:33 AM PST by caww

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To: Golden Eagle

Not everyone in California, of course!


121 posted on 12/30/2017 10:27:57 PM PST by Golden Eagle (Trump: "What the FBI has done is really, really disgraceful, and a lot of people are very angry.")
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To: caww

“I don’t have time to discuss this now....enough to say Morsi was Ob’s and Hillary’s guy ‘they’ put in office. The Egyptian people booted hiM out!”

Yes! Thanks for the correction of the comparison that’s been made. In the case of the socalled “Arab Spring,” (a cynical propaganda tool), Obama and Hillary sent young people to the streets to make it look like a push for freedom, but it was not their plan. Just the opposite. Do people not remember how Hillary and Obama got stable Mubarak ousted and Morsi elected and hung onto Morsi with their fingernails dug in, even though the population revolted against his repressive Islamist regime. Morsi was surely the choice of the Abedin family, whose family business is the expansion of Islam globally through their Muslim Brotherhood activities and publications and well-placed operatives. How many were as close or closer to and had more executive and foreign relations influence than Huma under the Clintons and then under Hillary as Secretary of State? The others who were close to Obama and Hillary were on the same page.


122 posted on 12/30/2017 10:29:20 PM PST by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: Czech_Occidentalist

“Aren’t portraits of people forbidden in Islam? How can there be a portrait of the Supreme Ayatollah?”

No graven images is more of a fundamentalist Sunni thing, the Shi’ites have whole bunch of “holy men” with reputed magic powers that they keep pictures of, or visit the graves of, hoping for some benefit.


123 posted on 12/30/2017 10:39:28 PM PST by BeauBo
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

Bottom line is Muslim Brotherhood was the ‘chosen’ organ to be used by Hillary and Obama to force Regime changes in states leaders who refused to co-operate with the Global Agenda. The promise then to seat these thugs, not only as Gov. leaders but at the seats of the Global Governing body.

Reason they chose muslim Brotherhood is because they have representation in every m.e. Country..and every university in the US. It’s significant to get the middle easterners on board the Global train because they want ‘to use’ their oil wealth and resources in the global finacial system....not that they give a hoot for middle easterners.


124 posted on 12/30/2017 10:39:59 PM PST by caww
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To: grey_whiskers

They’re going the wrong way to be bailing from the country. My guess is military aircraft or military transports on their way to try to stamp out the impending rebellion.


125 posted on 12/31/2017 12:44:50 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: caww

The claim of the existence and overriding dominance of a “Global Governing Body” is a hypothesis, a theory.

Fixate at your own peril on that hypothesis as a behind the scenes singular source of our world’s crisis.

Is Communism alive and well and busy around the world? Yes. Does it work to take down capitalism? Yes. Is it present in every country? Yes. Are they globalists? Yes.

The goal and trajectory of global jihad is not a hypothesis. Islamists announce it loud and clear to their own followers. It’s a clear, widely articulated reality, integral to Islam. It is the “what” and the “how” of the Muslim Brotherhood and other allied Muslim groups? The stated intent and worldwide population transfer and progress in establishing Islam as the uni-religion and to re-establish the global caliphate through global jihad.

For much more than a thousand years this goal has existed and already succeeded in ruthlessly and bloodily taking over most of much of the known word and making it Islamic. As long as it latest, it was global boss.

Who will prevail with the present trajectory? Islamists or Communists, or is Isam already comfortable enough with communism that they’ll bide their time until they go to war with Communism in a worldwide sweep?

Does it comes down to who is being used by whom? The Communist network might think it’s using the Muslims, but the Muslims, in turn, are using the Communists.


126 posted on 12/31/2017 2:27:17 AM PST by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

127 posted on 12/31/2017 3:20:39 AM PST by Paul R. (I don't want to be energy free, we want to be energy dominant in terms of the world. -D. Trump)
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To: bboop

There was no doubt when Obama cranked up the Arab Spring - this is just Iranian People feeling a bit of hope because of Trump.


128 posted on 12/31/2017 3:47:01 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone? I think Trump may give it back...)
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To: Paul R.

I’m not sure what your point was in sharing that Christianity was the largest religious group in the word in 2015. It’s sobering that the same organization, the Pew Research Center that did study of 2015 projects that the number of Muslims in the world will surpass the number of Christians by mid century.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/04/06/why-muslims-are-the-worlds-fastest-growing-religious-group/


129 posted on 12/31/2017 5:13:29 AM PST by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: All

not much info getting out today

right side news is covering this....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjlT-b7KKlo


130 posted on 12/31/2017 5:45:19 AM PST by janetjanet998
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To: Golden Eagle
Yeah, *you* got the point... but as Vox Day said,

SJWs always *project:

the left projects their hatred onto others: usually the Christians that they themselves hate.

131 posted on 12/31/2017 5:45:36 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: the_Watchman

Thanks for saving me a lot of typing.

This isn’t Syria.


132 posted on 12/31/2017 6:28:19 AM PST by dp0622 (The Left should know that if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: caww

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/12/31/stunning-audacity-clinton-tweets-support-for-iranian-protests-she-previously-helped-destroy/#more-144037

All you need to know about the Iran protests in 20 points http://ara.tv/r2ckj via @AlArabiya_Eng

1 On Tuesday, December 19, the Iranian government announced a new austerity plan.
2 The plan imposed a 50% increase in the price of fuel.
3 The government decided to cancel the monetary support of more than 34 million people.
4 Economists close to President Hassan Rouhani warned that the plan would lead to a societal explosion.
5 Hassan Rouhani snubbed the advice and decided to proceed with the austerity plan.
Demonstrations began with economic demands, but quickly turned political.
6 In this same austerity plan, the government decided to increase the budget for military armament.
7 Most of the military armament budget goes to the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC).
8 The IRGC operates on foreign lands, supporting the Houthi militia in Yemen, Hezbollah in Lebanon, the Popular Mobilization Unit in Iraq and supporting the Assad regime in Syria.
9 The number of poverty-stricken individuals under the lifting of subsidies rose from 20 million to 54 million.
10 On Wednesday, December 27, citizens went out on a limited demonstration to demand that the government backtrack on the austerity plans.
11 The demonstration was held in the city of Mashhad, the capital of Khorasan Rizvi province, and security forces treated the protesters with excessive violence.
12 On Thursday morning, thousands of citizens decided to go out in mass demonstrations against the regime in support of the protesters.
13 Demonstrations began with economic demands such as the restoration of monetary support and the lifting of fuel subsidies.
14 University students and other middle classes joined the demonstrations.
15 Their demands have evolved into political anger related to Iran’s foreign policy.
16 Demonstrators called on the regime to stop supporting terrorist groups abroad and said clearly in the slogans they chanted “Neither Gaza nor Lebanon … my soul is searching for the redemption of Iran.”
17 The massive demonstrations from Khorasan province extended to other provinces including Hamdan, Kermanshah and Tehran.
18 Security forces violently treated demonstrators and tried to disperse them with tear gas and arrested hundreds of them.
19 The clerics in Mashhad specifically called for the suppression of demonstrations by all means.
20 The geographical scope of the demonstrations is expected to expand to include provinces such as Sistan, Baluchistan and Persia, with its capital, Shiraz and Isfahan, which also witnessed massive demonstrations at the weekend.

Last Update: Saturday, 30 December 2017 KSA 12:44 – GMT 09:44


133 posted on 12/31/2017 9:09:56 AM PST by COUNTrecount (If Harvey Weinstein's bathrobe could only talk.)
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To: caww

ValJar has a *sad*.

134 posted on 12/31/2017 9:12:43 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

My point was not really about Christianity, I am simply noting that Islam is nowhere near its long passed historical successes. It’s recent gains and trajectory ARE of some concern, but, it is very violently and substantially internally divided. It is inherently easily turned against itself.

Of note is that while the West (plus Russia) supplied most of the bombs and bullets, who did most of the bleeding to fight ISIS?

Additionally, the other groups (plus some of the Muslims) can more or less all get along, and cooperate.

I’m also not THAT worried about the “Communists” from an existential standpoint: They are not great in number or wealth, and eventually also tend to be self-defeating. The Euro-Socialists / Atheists are a slightly different animal, IMO, but also for the foreseeable future are not that great a threat, at least so long as we don’t try to copy their weaknesses.

OTOH, Christian apathy, moral decay, and “modern” liberalism HERE are great dangers to us — bigger dangers then the Muslims, IMO, so long as we keep nukes out of the hands of Iran or any additional Islamic ruled countries.

Bottom line is that we have to keep all the threats in mind, properly weighed, realizing without panic that ALL can be handled with relative ease if we stay strong, confident, and make good choices.


135 posted on 12/31/2017 10:38:30 AM PST by Paul R. (I don't want to be energy free, we want to be energy dominant in terms of the world. -D. Trump)
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

.....”The claim of the existence and overriding dominance of a “Global Governing Body” is a hypothesis, a theory. Fixate at your own peril “......

Denial isn’t going to change the facts of this already in motion. There is already a World Health organization...World Financial Institutions such as Imf etc. and various International Trade Organizations currently operating. World Religions uniting....etc.etc...

We know the agenda for a Global Economic Order is in play creating a system of institutions, rules, and norms that govern international economic affairs.

Then of course there’s the Eurozone...


136 posted on 12/31/2017 10:56:25 AM PST by caww
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To: COUNTrecount

That is really very interesting information.

I find it particularly fascinating that the Iranians are in apparently such deep monetary / economic trouble even with the lifting of sanctions. One suspects that if Obama and Kerry had not been so eager to hand ‘em the farm...


137 posted on 12/31/2017 11:57:13 AM PST by Paul R. (I don't want to be energy free, we want to be energy dominant in terms of the world. -D. Trump)
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To: trebb

Thanks, trebb and others. I was actually looking for clarification of this from FReepers who knew. FR is a great place to learn details from folks who follow politics more closely than I.


138 posted on 12/31/2017 11:59:37 AM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: NFHale

“Some words come to mind: “Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.””

_________________________________________________________

....been a whole lot of Neo-Con bluster going on today here at FR. What would the typical FR reaction be if they found out that, say, the Chinese were shipping weapons into U.S. “inner cities” for gangs to use against other citizens and the police? Might that be an act of war? ....a more disturbing question...how many “Freepers” would care?

Looks like Wilsonian Interventionism is alive and well here on FR.


139 posted on 12/31/2017 12:50:44 PM PST by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: Bishop_Malachi
"Might that be an act of war?"

Iran declared war on the United States in 1979 when it overran our embassy and held our people hostage for 444 days. That regime has been our enemy ever since and they deserve every bad thing we can heap oh their heads.

140 posted on 12/31/2017 1:00:42 PM PST by Flag_This (Liberals are locusts.)
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