Posted on 12/22/2017 9:25:12 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
California ammunition sales are surging as residents rush to beat the January 1, 2018, implementation of new gun controls targeting ammo sales.
The incoming controls are the outworking of Proposition 63, passed by voters in 2016.
On December 15 Breitbart News reported that California’s war on guns would broaden to include a war on ammo in 2018. These controls include a ban on any ammunition not purchased within the state of California. Moreover, they narrowly define legally purchased ammo as that which is acquired via a licensed dealer in the state.
These controls will not only lessen the supply of ammunition available to Californians, thereby driving up the price for bullets, but will also add processing fees to certain ammo sales, driving up the price even higher.
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
“If you buy boxes of 20 (rifle) or 50 (pistol), there is a lot number on the box. There is a lot of information behind that lot number. Including where the manufacturer shipped the product. “
Any copper who would enforce this law is just as bad as the sons of bitches who passed it.
1. NRA to file suit after January 1.
2. Dealers tell me CA still has no way to administer/enforce.
Seems like feel good bluster from liberal politicians in Sacramento.
Who cares as long as there is a Las Vegas gun show?
If you kill all your boxes and just keep the ammo.... and make sure the manufacturer shipped to CA... you are still okay, right?
I mean this is such a BS law. Maybe CA will make ammo makers engrave each round.
Color me an outlaw then. I will simply buy my ammo in Nevada or Arizona.
Wait...
Is it going to be illegal to buy ammo out of state? I thought the law only applied to shipping ammo into the sate. Ithought it was still legal to go out of sate, purchase ammo, and bring it home into Caliornia?
How canCalifornia do that? Doesn’t that violate the constiutionally protected Federal laws allowing intersate commerce. I mean, I can even buy guns out of state as long as I have a California FFL dealer transfer them.
There is no way we are prohibited from buying out of state ammo and atill allowed to buy guns out of state.
I don’t buy it that out of state ammo sales are illegal. I think the prohibition is only on shipping ammo in from out of state. I am sure you can still walk i in.
See SixIron’s reply a few posts up.
I think the new rule is, if a manufacture does any business with any state besides California, the ammo is banned in California.
Or maybe it is that if any manufacturer employs anyone who has lived anywhere but California, the ammo is banned in California.
Or maybe it is that if any manufacturer employs a human being, and it can be shown that human beings exist in any other state besides California, the ammo is banned in California.
I expect kaleeforna to use tax stamps on ammo boxes similar to those for cigarettes.
What’s the cheapest online ammo? Company name?
Beat New Gun Controls , THROW OUT THE CRAZY GOVERNMENT
Son of a bitch. The Satanic California Communist bastards put it right into the law.
The law will be struck down. The 9th Circus will overturn the lower court. Then the SCOTUS has to overturn the Satanic 9th. Right?
Text from the law below...
30314. (a) Commencing January 1, 2018, a resident of this state shall not bring or transport into this state any ammunition that he or she purchased or otherwise obtained from outside of this state unless he or she rst has that ammunition delivered to a licensed ammunition vendor for delivery to that resident pursuant to the procedures set forth in Section 30312.
I predict the Agriculture Station that’s located in Baker on the I-15 from Vegas will now be asking if you have any Ammo as well as Fruit and Vegetables in your Car.
” ‘...How can they know?...’
Start with the head stamp. If manufacturer didn’t ship to CA in that year, you are out of luck. ...”
Headstamps containing the date are found only on ammunition made to MIL STD only. US commercial ammunition bears manufacturer and caliber information.
Some foreign-made ammunition is stamped with otherwise unannotated numbers, but these digits do not always indicate the date of manufacture.
That is not the last word on enforceability headaches.
Many commercial reloading companies exist. Often, they obtain once-fired cases in military chamberings, which bear headstamps indicating original date of manufacture. They produce remanufactured ammunition using these cases. Would the law apply to original year of manufacture, or to year of remanufacture?
I like www.ammoseek.com A huge list of everything available from numerous sources.
Ammo tax stamp?
Yup. Kinda gives a feel for who has the best online prices.
“I predict the Agriculture Station that’s located in Baker on the I-15 from Vegas will now be asking if you have any Ammo as well as Fruit and Vegetables in your Car.”
I think that most people here don’t realize that California already stops every car entering the state, due to their Ag Inspections (has been going on for decades), so smuggling in ammo is not as easy as making sure to drive the speed limit.
ammograb.com and ammoseek.com list inexpensive places to buy.
I've found targetsportsusa.com to be excellent, especially if you enroll in their Ammo Prime program.
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