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Concerns Over Fake Comments on FCC Net Neutrality
WNEP-16 ^ | 14 December 2017 | Dave Bohman

Posted on 12/15/2017 6:39:39 AM PST by Erik Latranyi

WILKES-BARRE -- For the past few months, the Federal Communications Commission asked for comments from the public on whether it should end net neutrality. Thousands of comments came from people in northeastern and central Pennsylvania. But it appears many, if not most of these comments, are fake.

We called 12 people whose names were listed as making comments with the FCC and none of them said they even contacted the agency. That includes a woman from Wilkes-Barre who admits she doesn't even know what the FCC does. The Christmas spirit runs through the home of Darlene Mapes in Wilkes-Barre, but her smile goes away when she learns her name is on a government document to the federal communications commission.

"I never did that," Mapes said.

But FCC files show that in August, Mapes wrote, "the Obama-era FCC regulations (known as net neutrality) enable the federal government to exert an unnecessary amount of regulatory control of the internet."

The FCC file shows Mapes writing, "I support Chairman Pai's proposal."

"I don't know a Chairman Pai," she said.

The FCC lists more than 500 people from Dunmore as commenting on net neutrality, including former borough council member Paul Nardozzi. He believes most of his neighbors on the list did not contact the agency.

"If they can use my name and have my address idiotic as that, God only knows what someone else could use your name for," Nardozzi said.

Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro believes so many fake comments hurt people who opposed the FCC. He wants to see a federal investigation into how the names of so many people were used without their knowledge.

"Approximately one million fake accounts were created, and really it influenced their decision to gut net neutrality," Shapiro said.

Darlene Mapes hopes the new rules don't slow down her internet which she only uses to play games. And she's still concerned about her name being listed on a government document taking a stand on an issue she knows nothing about.

"They don't have a right to use my name." You may be concerned that your name is connected to a comment with the FCC and there's an easy way to find out. The attorney general's office has set up a web page where you can check to see if a fake comment has been made in your name.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fake; fcc; internet; netneutrality
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To: mlo
There doesn't need to be a government rule to enforce that. This is how markets work.

I've had VONAGE phone service for nearly TEN years.

I had it some two years before Comcast even offered it.

After Comcast began offering it and getting me to try to switch from Vonage to Comcast's phone service.. for nearly a year and a half I had a constant problem with being in the middle of a phone conversation and suddenly losing connectivity. This would happen 60% of the time I was on a call that lasted longer than 7 minutes.

I eventually found out through a Comcast technician that this was a Comcast tactic employed to get non-Comcast phone service users to switch to Comcast.

My point: Comcast had the upper hand of CONTROL because Vonage needed an Internet connection to pass through in order to work.

Comcast CONTROLLED that connectivity. My only alternative for connectivity at the time was AT&T's DSL, which IMO was inferior and cost nearly as much as Comcast.

By the way.. during this interruptive period I was deluged with emails, snail mail ads, and TV commercials trying to sell users, like myself, on Comcast's Internet phone service.

ALL of this happened during a period when there was NO NET NEUTRALITY. Between 2005 and 2012, five attempts to pass bills in Congress containing net neutrality provisions failed. Each sought to prohibit Internet service providers from using various variable pricing models based upon the user's quality of service level, described as tiered service in the industry and as price discrimination arising from abuse of "local monopolies enshrined in law" by some economists

Net Neutrality came into existence in 2015.

61 posted on 12/15/2017 10:32:52 AM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: Grampa Dave; Kaslin
Thanks. When Rush is through, could you summarize the important parts with short bullet points in a reply to this thread. (Please ping me)

I'm sure Kaslin will do her usual excellent job of posting his opening comments this evening. :-)

62 posted on 12/15/2017 10:35:20 AM PST by COBOL2Java (John McCain treats GOP voters like he treated his first wife)
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To: VideoDoctor

Given that they provide the product, including infrastructure and support, shouldn’t they control it? The only thing I would change is to introduce an easier means to compete with them in providing that service.


63 posted on 12/15/2017 10:39:00 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: VideoDoctor
Comcast CONTROLLED that connectivity. My only alternative for connectivity at the time was AT&T's DSL, which IMO was inferior and cost nearly as much as Comcast.

And we all know that the best way to increase competition and choices is to get government involved. After all, the ACA has done wonders for the availability and affordability of health care.

Government is not the answer for this particular problem. They will stagnate the issue at the point they got their grubby mits on it. If a company treats its customers poorly, in a free market other companies will step forward to offer better services and products.

64 posted on 12/15/2017 10:43:22 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Caipirabob
Given that they provide the product, including infrastructure and support, shouldn’t they control it? The only thing I would change is to introduce an easier means to compete with them in providing that service.

Easier SAID than DONE!

65 posted on 12/15/2017 10:44:03 AM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: Caipirabob
Given that they provide the product, including infrastructure and support, shouldn’t they control it? The only thing I would change is to introduce an easier means to compete with them in providing that service.

Sadly, there are those who believe that the government can do a better job of controlling things than those DASTARDLY, EVIL CORPORATIONS. Health care, climate, and now the internet; control of all these should now be handed over to Washington DC!

"Oh no! Oh no!" They'll object; "Just a little bit of control!" Right; just like the camel's nose in the tent.

Why they are on a conservative forum like Free Republic, I cannot for the life of me understand.

66 posted on 12/15/2017 10:44:13 AM PST by COBOL2Java (John McCain treats GOP voters like he treated his first wife)
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To: dirtboy
And we all know that the best way to increase competition and choices is to get government involved.

So YOU'RE anti-Government.

Strangely.. SOMETIMES, like a broken clock which is RIGHT twice a day, the Government isn't ALWAYS wrong.

My Point: There are times when Government ACTUALLY BENEFITS and PROTECTS BOTH Citizens and Consumers.

I learned long ago that there are NO ABSOLUTES so therefore Government ISN'T ALWAYS WRONG.

67 posted on 12/15/2017 10:49:35 AM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: VideoDoctor
My Point: There are times when Government ACTUALLY BENEFITS and PROTECTS BOTH Citizens and Consumers.

And NN wasn't one of those times.

68 posted on 12/15/2017 10:51:36 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: VideoDoctor
So YOU'RE anti-Government.

I'm anti bad government. You apparently can't tell the difference. Telling.

Government helped create the cable monopoly - Comcast - that you railed against. What makes you think government can improve the internet?

Government has screwed up health care, education, even toilets. Only someone oblivious to the history of such thinks that government regulating the internet like a utility would be an improvement.

69 posted on 12/15/2017 10:54:05 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: COBOL2Java

So what happened here in Canada with ISP providers is they put limits on how much high speed a user can have. You get various tiers to pay for. We are in the 500 GB tier, which we come close to, only because we are using Netflix on the highest quality setting. We pay $80 for it, which sucks, but I rather have that than the government get involved.


70 posted on 12/15/2017 11:01:25 AM PST by Sam Gamgee
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To: dfwgator
And NN wasn't one of those times.

You're entitled to your opinion.

That doesn't make me wrong.

We'll let things unfold and then we'll BOTH know who was correct.

As I said earlier.. "realize it's a "tug of war" over the direction and the DOLLARS."

My point: It has little to do with protection of the consumer, which NN does.

71 posted on 12/15/2017 11:02:00 AM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: Erik Latranyi; SkyPilot; Roman_War_Criminal; metmom; SVTCobra03; Maudeen; firebrand; ...

yep

What could possibly go wrong with sending your DNA off to complete strangers???


72 posted on 12/15/2017 11:04:44 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: COBOL2Java

I’m a bit confused because I thought net neutrality never actually got into place. There were 2 Democrats and 2 Republicans on the FCC and so they were deadlocked. The Dummies wanted NN but couldn’t get it.


73 posted on 12/15/2017 11:05:07 AM PST by Sam Gamgee
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To: COBOL2Java

Hey, it’s the Obamacare provider bins!


74 posted on 12/15/2017 11:05:44 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: dirtboy
Government helped create the cable monopoly - Comcast - that you railed against. What makes you think government can improve the internet?

Like I said "Broken Clock" and there are "NO ABSOLUTES"

Government sometimes actually benefits us.

Apparently in your world it never does. Which is a STRANGE POV.

75 posted on 12/15/2017 11:06:45 AM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: Sam Gamgee
I’m a bit confused because I thought net neutrality never actually got into place. There were 2 Democrats and 2 Republicans on the FCC and so they were deadlocked. The Dummies wanted NN but couldn’t get it.

Read it and chuckle:

Federal Register, 13 April 2015: "Protecting and Promoting the Open Internet - A Rule by the Federal Communications Commission"


(gotta love how the government writes titles to be the exact opposite of what their rules actually do - you know, like the "Affordable Care Act")
76 posted on 12/15/2017 11:16:56 AM PST by COBOL2Java (John McCain treats GOP voters like he treated his first wife)
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To: SaveFerris
What could possibly go wrong with sending your DNA off to complete strangers???

Good point. I have friends who claim that these companies doing the DNA testing are a front for the CIA and NSA who are busy creating the beginnings of a National DNA database.

Again, you're right..What could possibly go wrong?

77 posted on 12/15/2017 11:24:46 AM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: VideoDoctor; Liz; LucyT; Travis McGee; Diogenesis; SkyPilot; Roman_War_Criminal; null and void

I believe 23 and Me is a Google subsidiary, so.....

Yes, I agree that it will probably be swept into a national database if it isn’t already. But hey, people say it’s all just tinfoil - everything is no problem.....

>>>>Google invested $3,900,000 in the company, along with Genentech, New Enterprise Associates, and Mohr Davidow Ventures.[13] Wojcicki was married to Google co-founder Sergey Brin at the time.[7]<<<<<

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/23andMe


78 posted on 12/15/2017 11:29:27 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: COBOL2Java

Damn, wish I hear it. There is no cogent argument even on FR. Everyone has different viewpoint and opinions and they all seem to make a good point.

I am kind of knee-jerk and am against it because of those who support it which doesn’t make me feel like I’m on firm footing yet. Anything you find that might help to better explain it will be greatly appreciated, thanks.


79 posted on 12/15/2017 11:32:41 AM PST by JerseyDvl ("If you're going through hell, keep going.")
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To: VideoDoctor
Apparently in your world it never does. Which is a STRANGE POV.

Apparently you are twisting my words. I demonstrated that government involvement helped create the mess you complained about, but you still cling to the notion that maybe this time government will make this situation better.

Government does good in some areas - military, law enforcement, even some level of regulation - but regulation of market access? Meh. History is on my side, not yours.

80 posted on 12/15/2017 11:34:08 AM PST by dirtboy
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