Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


1 posted on 12/11/2017 10:11:27 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


To: sukhoi-30mki

“Back in early 2006, Russian president Vladimir Putin integrated all of Russia’s aviation companies into a single, state-owned holding — the United Aircraft-building Corporation.”

Now that is a formula for failure.


2 posted on 12/11/2017 10:16:18 AM PST by Parley Baer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: sukhoi-30mki

“F-22ski”?


3 posted on 12/11/2017 10:18:40 AM PST by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: sukhoi-30mki
The first photo looks like the plane was pieced together by tinsmiths.......

Look at the middle of the engine on the left, it looks like there's a bulge in the wing right next to it.......

4 posted on 12/11/2017 10:18:48 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (My cat is not fat, she is just big boned........)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: sukhoi-30mki
Looks a lot like an F-22ski.

This article doesn't talk about the hardware capability so much as the viability of the infrastructure necessary to fund, manufacture and market the plane.

We have underestimated our opponents before and paid for our arrogance of presumed superiority. ME-109s, Zeros and MiG 15s cost us heavily in blood until we designed planes to beat their capabilities. In future conflicts we won't have the luxury of 4 years to establish ourselves as the arsenal of democracy.

5 posted on 12/11/2017 10:23:14 AM PST by pfflier
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: sukhoi-30mki

the United Aircraft-building Corporation

Only a communist could come with such a creative name for an....aircraft building company.


9 posted on 12/11/2017 10:58:11 AM PST by suthener
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: sukhoi-30mki; blackdog; rjsimmon; pfflier
from the article: "No matter how large or populated, a country with GDP comparable to that of Australia cannot afford to play at being a superpower, fight a protracted war in Syria and develop its own stealth fighter."

OK, let's start here...

According to public information from the CIA, Austrailia's GDP at $1.2 trillion is ranked #19 in the world.
Russia, at $3.8 trillion is #6, compared to the USA at $19 trillion #2 behind only China.

So right away, this article deals in the realm of hyperbole, not facts.

from the article: "The last hope for the project was the serious Indian interest in financing the conversion of the Su-57 into a stealth strike fighter in the class of the Su-30MKI."

Now we come to the heart of this matter.
Russians aren't really working alone, they've partnered-up with Indians -- the worlds #3 economy at $9 trillion GDP.
Russia plus India partnered = $13 trillion GDP, which you'd think enough to finance an exotic new fighter plane.

Note the Russia/Indian Su-30MKI -- Russians have built 240 for the Indians and that's what's interested them in a stealth version, the SU-57:

current Russia/Indian Su-30MKI -- new Russian SU=57:

The cost to India of their current SU-30MKI's is put at $56 million per.
The cost to produce the new stealth SU-57 is put at $50 million per.
The cost of the US F-22 Raptor is put at $150 million per, possibly explaining the Indians' interest in Russian aircraft.

US F-22 Raptor:

10 posted on 12/11/2017 11:11:46 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: sukhoi-30mki

Way back when they were throwing around numbers, I was very skeptical that they would be able to produce those planes, in those numbers, at those prices. Too many bottlenecks.


12 posted on 12/11/2017 11:31:09 AM PST by Ronin (Blackface or bolt-ons, it's the same fraud. - Norm Lenhart)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson