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Zullo Provides New Insights on Obama Birth Certificate Mystery, Part 3
The Post & Email ^ | 12/6/2017 | Sharon Rondeau

Posted on 12/06/2017 7:07:17 PM PST by Elderberry

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To: Elderberry

It was the fake Obama COB that got Trump into politics.


61 posted on 12/07/2017 7:21:46 PM PST by nicollo (I said no!)
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To: GregNH

I understand. I was referring to the actions prior to that date of which he was a Kenyan citizen waiting for his decision at 23 years old.

rwood


62 posted on 12/07/2017 7:42:33 PM PST by Redwood71
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To: Yaelle
He.

I don't remember when I started saying Canada, but it was a long time ago. When I found out that Stanley Ann had an Aunt that lived in Canada in 1959, and later in Blaine Washington, it made sense to me. Canada had already gone socialist health care by that time, so the hospital stay would have been free.

I always thought that her parents were horrified that she had gotten pregnant by a black guy, and wanted her sent away during the pregnancy. In those days, the norm was to get sent to live with a relative, and Stanley Ann had a female aunt living in Canada at the time.

Eleanor Belle Dunham Berkebelie

Her two children were buried in Canada in 1959.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/34618044#

Also in an interview with one of Stanley Ann's friends who lived in Seattle, she said Stanley Ann arrived at her house with a baby, and that she didn't know how to change his diaper. That tells me "newborn."

It tells me Obama couldn't have been born in Hawaii, he had to have been born nearby. Since it was a big secret, it must have been across the border in WhiteRock or Vancouver. If he had been born in Seattle, (no hospital in Blaine at that time) there would have been no need to go through all the crap to make sure he had an American birth certificate.

63 posted on 12/07/2017 7:56:25 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Yaelle; DiogenesLamp

Your approach was brilliant. You were right on every point. Agree 100% with your conclusion. We elected a non-citizen twice...with disastrous results. The truth will out eventually. It always does.

DL had the jump on many of us bc he recognized the BC as a fabrication, as opposed to a forgery. It’s what a state does if a kid gets adopted. I.e.: they slap together a cut and paste version with the new info while sealing the original.

Obama didn’t have an original BC to seal, only some “handwritten,” “birth records,”—(under the table) generated by Granny Dunham. I’d love to know what info they contained, but we probably never will. We know from Abercrombie’s initial, panicked reaction (which he shared with Mike Evans) that the handwritten notes were entirely inadequate. But with Fuddy’s help an actual BC was fabricated and authenticated.

The rest is history.


64 posted on 12/07/2017 7:57:17 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter
I turned out to be quite wrong about the Stanley Ann Dunham "photographs". They looked like her, but it was conclusively demonstrated they were taken in 1958, and so it could not possibly have been her.

I was believing the "Kenya" theory for awhile, mainly because Obama had been telling people he was from Kenya, and I had heard it on news broadcasts and such since his "great" speech at the DNC convention.

I would like to take credit for thinking up the Canada theory, but someone else did much of the leg work on it, and I just found a few other pieces here and there.

I don't remember for sure who first did the research on the Canada theory, but I'm thinking it was "Lame Cherry".

http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/

Back in those days, I was looking all over the internet for anything I could find on the topic. It might also have been "The Daily Pen."

http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/

I know I found something I considered very significant there.

65 posted on 12/07/2017 8:20:44 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: generally

Grandmother died suddenly?

Didn’t his sister or half-sister die more suddenly right before she was about to give an interview to a newspaper reporter?


66 posted on 12/07/2017 8:32:03 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane

I don’t remember anything about the sister, but IIRC, the grandmother suddenly became ill when the campaign and questions about his birth were heating up. He went to see her in Hawaii and she died while he was there or right after he left. Just a few days before the election.

The whole thing was creepy/suspicious.


67 posted on 12/07/2017 8:51:29 PM PST by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Interesting! I can understand the confusion over those pictures. It really did look like SA. I think what spared me is being a woman. I could never muster sufficient interest in the photos to have an opinion either way.

What’s baffling is how many still subscribe to the Frank Marshall Davis-as-father theory. Had the pics been real, it would make sense. Otherwise, what evidence is there that SA was attracted to decrepit old men?

Thanks for the links. Canada is so obvious in hindsight, but Obama’s Kenyan claims muddied the water in the early days. Plus, it wasn’t until David Maraniss published his Obama-bio that it became apparent how completely SA had disappeared from HI. She was GONE.


68 posted on 12/07/2017 8:55:23 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Well, it shows me how sharp we both are. I really did get chewed out for my conclusion, here on FR, so, surely did you. I did not know about the aunt. But we are correct, I’m sure of it. Nothing else fits. He needed a FAKE SS number at age 16. At age 18 he never filed his Selective Service papers. These facts don’t say “not native born,” they say NOT A CITIZEN AT ALL.

It means that we had a President for 8 years who showed a foreign passport to get into college here. He no doubt attended Occidental as an Indonesian, probably with Indonesia picking up the bill. Thus on his college entrance forms, he literally checked the box marked NO to the question,

“Are you an American citizen?”

And he later became the President of this country.

As Senator he must have given authorities some major tale they bought, because he was given a ceremonial passport for official travel. Then, during his campaign, the dirty tricks committee broke in to the passport office, and the passport files on him, Hillary Clinton, and McCain (the latter two to throw off the scent) were tampered with. Someone got murdered over this.

I wish the American people could SEE HOW STUPID they are. Instead, everyone I told over the last 9 years thinks I’m crazy.


69 posted on 12/07/2017 9:38:22 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: generally

Yes. Clearly for some reason, Typical White Granny had to go. Maybe she was still quite with it and would have spouted off that he wasn’t born here.


70 posted on 12/07/2017 9:40:25 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: SERKIT

I don’t know about now, but back then, there was nothing in Gurnee except an outlet mall, and Santa’s Village.


71 posted on 12/07/2017 10:05:24 PM PST by Flaming Conservative
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To: Yaelle
Don't forget this:
72 posted on 12/07/2017 10:13:30 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

It was common knowledge then (though untrue) that Obama was born in Kenya. African heritage was about the coolest thing back then in the black American community. He used it to his advantage, already having the hot African name.


73 posted on 12/07/2017 10:58:46 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle
I've kept a whole library on the DemocRAT COMMUNISTS,
and the ILLEGAL ALIEN IN CHIEF is a REPROBATE like very few of the rest.

The Arab-Kenyan Barack Hussein Obama II, a.k.a. Barry Soetoro will go down in history as one of the deadliest enemies of the the United States of America ... that we have ever known.
74 posted on 12/08/2017 1:00:55 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

Biggest scam on the American people ever. And I really want to splash the cold water in the faces of all the “good, do the right thing” liberal Americans. They wouldn’t listen to anyone other than the wiener splashing media titans on tv. Their own closed mindedness made them STUPID IN LARGE ENOUGH GROUPS to whiz on our Constitution. Obama was never vetted for eligibility as well as a patron is vetted going into a Kings game.


75 posted on 12/08/2017 7:53:02 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

Probably the most pathetic thing I’ve seen is an Obot/true-believer trying to explain why SA would have given birth in HI and then rushed off to Seattle. David Maraniss had a go at it, though not even he was game enough to tackle how she actually *got* there. Even Obots have their limits.

Anyway, Maraniss conjectured that SA fled to Seattle to escape domestic violence. No, really; he did.

Think about it. Maraniss confirmed that Obama Sr and SA never lived a day together. He documented O Sr’s residence [at the time of the supposed marriage] where the Kenyan lived *alone.* Maraniss also admitted that while SA lived with her parents during her first semester in HI, he had no idea where she lived during her pregnancy (other than to rule out with O Sr or with her parents).

So Maraniss posited the following scenario: O Sr would periodically leave his bachelor quarters, and instead of going to the university would visit SA’s secret location instead. There he would beat her up. Afterward, he’d get on with living the single life and being a student.

Now bear in mind there is no evidence to back these events. It’s all in Maraniss’ imagination.

But anyway, according to that flight of fancy, SA’s only recourse was to spend a fortune fleeing to the cold and friendless city of Seattle. That was her only
‘out.’

It’s an absurd, fact-and-evidence-free theory. But it’s the best an Obot can do. A more plausible explanation doesn’t exist. When attempting to explain something that never happened, absurdity is pretty much the only option.


76 posted on 12/08/2017 9:17:28 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Yaelle
Well, it shows me how sharp we both are. I really did get chewed out for my conclusion, here on FR, so, surely did you.

Not so much. People just generally ignored it when I pointed it out. I don't think I ever caught much flak over it, people would usually just say I was wrong, and then explain to me that Obama's grandmother in Kenya proves them right.

He needed a FAKE SS number at age 16. At age 18 he never filed his Selective Service papers. These facts don’t say “not native born,” they say NOT A CITIZEN AT ALL.

A lot of the things we found out about him were problematic for a foreigner, but not so much for a citizen.

77 posted on 12/08/2017 10:35:05 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Fantasywriter

Wow. Maraniss is more idiotic than I thought.


78 posted on 12/08/2017 1:49:05 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

Bol! You don’t mince words.

Maraniss knew, when he failed to locate a single actual witness to SA’s presence in HI for ~a 10 mo period, that he would be in trouble with his target audience—liberals. He did a lot of idiotic shucking and jiving and bobbing and weaving in an effort to minimize the damage.

It wasn’t enough. His book suffered anemic sales anyway. Conservatives were not satisfied with the tidbits of truth he included, and Leftists were angry over the same smattering of facts. Maraniss exposed one too many of Obama’s Dreams’ lies, and Leftists took it out on Maraniss’ bottom line.


79 posted on 12/08/2017 2:10:02 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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