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Britain furious, Trump unapologetic as fallout swells from anti-Muslim videos
The Washington Post ^ | December 1st, 2017 | By Karla Adam and William Booth

Posted on 12/01/2017 7:30:14 AM PST by Mariner

LONDON — The British revolt against President Trump swelled Thursday with Parliament members openly deriding him and Britain’s prime minister standing by her denunciations of Trump’s retweets of a fringe group’s anti-Muslim videos.

Prime Minister Theresa May blasted Trump for crossing a line by posting the inflammatory videos on his Twitter page Wednesday — and then warning May to essentially mind her own business and focus on Islamist terrorism instead of him.

But officials were careful to note that ties with the United States are stronger than the current flare-up with the White House.

“It’s increasingly clear that any official visit from President Trump to Britain would not be welcomed,” tweeted London’s mayor, Sadiq Khan, the first Muslim to hold the office. Khan has repeatedly called for Britain to withdraw an invitation for Trump to visit — and his stance appeared to gain backing amid the outrage against the president.

In a sign of the disruptive wake unleashed by Trump, British Home Secretary Amber Rudd had to remind Parliament and the public that Britain’s relationship with the United States was bigger than one president — and that important trade, security and intelligence sharing are ongoing.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: europeanunion; jihadineurope; london; sadiqkhan; theresamay; ukmuslims
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To: x1stcav

Aitn that the truth.

He stirs the bastards up and then goes on and says something that pisses them off even more.

By the time he is done, they are so stirred up they cant think..at all. Not that they could before.


61 posted on 12/01/2017 8:21:25 AM PST by crz
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To: Leaning Right

Your issue up to this point seems to have been Trump’s twitter activity. Do you think that perhaps a President might have access to information to which you yourself are not privy?


62 posted on 12/01/2017 8:22:54 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Leaning Right
To be honest, Leaning Right, there are enough documented instances of Moslem barbarism in western countries that I don't give a crap if they are fake or not. Of course they aren't fake, though. That's just a kneejerk reaction by the lying taqqiya moslems. They lie, like all liberals do.

Britain first is not a fascist or racist organization. They represent the real British people, like Tommy Robinson does. Don't fall for the lies. To be even more honest, we need to up our propaganda campaign. Trump is doing a great job so far cutting through the politically correct cover the moslems hide behind.

More people need to be honest, including those stupid cucks in charge in England and Europe.

63 posted on 12/01/2017 8:23:24 AM PST by bagster (Mama tried to raise me better.)
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To: crz

“He stirs the bastards up and then goes on and says something that pisses them off even more.”

Once you know a man’s emotional hot buttons, you can make him stupid and ineffective all day long, every day.

And Trump sets the Standard of Mastery in that regard.

And all of his targets hate him for it, because they know what’s happening as it happens.

They just can’t help themselves.


64 posted on 12/01/2017 8:24:38 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Excellent analysis!


65 posted on 12/01/2017 8:24:46 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Mariner

> I’ve seen no questions on whether they are accurate and factual. If you have a source that raises reasonable questions about factual accuracy, please send it my way. <

Here’s one article about that. It’s from ABC News, so of course take it with a grain of salt.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/dutch-website-muslim-migrant-video-trump-retweeted/story?id=51495780

Everyone makes mistakes, of course. But if (and that’s a big if) Trump has shot himself in the foot here, that’s something we don’t need.


66 posted on 12/01/2017 8:29:39 AM PST by Leaning Right
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To: Mariner

Given all that you know and have witnessed of the atrocities committed by Islamic barbarians here and across the world, why are you skeptical of these videos? It’s not like it’s out of character for these animals to brutally murder innocents, rape women, kill homosexuals, or Jews. We’ve seen all these things in real time - many of these acts carried out as mass murder events. If anything, you should be questioning why governments (any of them) desire to cover-up the extent of these atrocities in their own country and leave their citizens to be repeatedly victimized by these Muzzies by criminally prosecuting anyone who cries out against it for using “hate speech.”


67 posted on 12/01/2017 8:31:27 AM PST by torqemada (Those who know, don't say. Those who say, don't know.)
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To: Mariner

They were not anti-Muslim videos. They were recordings of actions taken by m*zzlims.
I support Trump and Jayda Fransen.


68 posted on 12/01/2017 8:34:04 AM PST by I want the USA back (Don't try to make me use some silly-a$$ made-up pronoun!)
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To: MarvinStinson

Amen!

Anyone, who suggests that President Trump stops using Twitter is like the LBJ/Obama thugs who disarmed those of us in the military while on duty during their miserable presidencies. Nothing like standing watch with an empty 1911 and no clips with bullets.

Twitter is our President’s tool/weapon to silence those who want to do away with him. We will not stop him from using his weapon when he needs to.


69 posted on 12/01/2017 8:37:19 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The fastest way to drain the DC swamp is to simply expose it! Sunlight does aid in evaporation!)
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To: bagster

> To be honest, Leaning Right, there are enough documented instances of Moslem barbarism in western countries that I don’t give a crap if they are fake or not. <

Good post yours. But I wasn’t thinking about my fellow Freepers when I posted previously. I was thinking about the general public. Many of them just don’t understand the lethal danger that radical Islam presents.

So Trump tweets three videos. One of them looks like it was misrepresented (see my post #66). So what will the general public hear? They will hear that Trump posted something bad about Islam, and that his post was false. All negative stories about Islam then become suspect.

We cannot afford these sort of missteps. The stakes are too high. Islam or the West. Only one will survive 100 years from now.


70 posted on 12/01/2017 8:38:23 AM PST by Leaning Right
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To: Mariner

They are like democrats.

Nothing makes them madder than when you take them down with the truth.


71 posted on 12/01/2017 8:45:40 AM PST by Vlad The Inhaler (United We Stand - Divided We Fall. Remember: Diversity is the opposite of unity.)
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To: laconic

I agree. I have a good assortment of British friends on a chat app. Many of them recognize the invasion. More than a few surmise the Muslims men are so angry cuz they have to deal with 30 wives when most Brit guys think just one is enough PITA.


72 posted on 12/01/2017 8:46:41 AM PST by Kudsman ( Anyone to the Right of Stalin is a Far Right Wing candidate to the Far Left Wing Media.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
The Brits have committed suicide and they are happy with it.
Death by Muslim.


73 posted on 12/01/2017 8:48:21 AM PST by Vlad The Inhaler (United We Stand - Divided We Fall. Remember: Diversity is the opposite of unity.)
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To: DungeonMaster


I would imagine “the British” are not furious; its the idiots in the media and the politicians.

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Yes, thanks! My first thought.


Same here.

My initial thought was “I bet you could easily go interview a bunch of Brits on the street and get the real story and then just post it to Youtube.”

Then my media cynicism kicked in, and I thought, “Yeah, but how many people would even see it? Especially a response to a specific article from a dying rag like the Washington Post.”

Then sadness kicked in. “I bet the normal Brits who would actually give you an accurate impression of what the average British citizen feels would be terrified to say it on camera. Between the Muslims, the SJWs, and their own government, they probably already know they’re be hell to hell to pay putting their face out there with ‘wrong’ message.”


Btw, nice name and tagline. I just started playing for the first time this year. When I’m killing cultists with my Ranger tomorrow, I’ll envision them as the cultist Left and make it extra painful.


74 posted on 12/01/2017 8:53:25 AM PST by According2RecentPollsAirIsGood
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To: Leaning Right

I think your important point is getting lost in some noise here.

Some around here seem to think that asking for proof of a veracity of a claim is somehow not supporting the president. It’s nothing of the kind. He’s not God, and so like any man should be expected to be able to prove any allegation. And in fact if he’s able to prove the video is what is claimed than it only will strengthen his position even more. That some around here don’t seem to get that is mind boggling.

I say this because, some may not be aware, but the current criticism against these videos are that they are fake. Specifically the one allegedly showing a group of Muslims throwing a Dutch kid off a roof. If one goes to Trumps Twitter page and looks at the comments about it there there are some leftists there that claim it’s a video of a group of Dutch kids from a year ago committing the atrocity. They say it’s old news over there and has been debunked.

So that’s where the requiement of proof comes in. And also where all this backlash is coming from. It’s not that some people don’t believe it’s a horrible act caught on video. No one can deny that. But they are saying it’s not what Britain First (and Trump) are saying it is.

So like it or not he does need to prove the video is really what Britain First says it is. Or else people are just going to dismiss this as “racist garbage” (as they already are now) and it will ultimately hurt his credibility.

Let me be clear there’s nothing wrong with retweeting such a video or videos to get the message out about such barbarity. You just can’t rely on faked material to do it. There is no rebuttal, that makes sense, if there’s a claim the original material is fake. You have to prove it’s not or else the truth (about Islamic terrorism) gets overshadowed by such a claim. It’s a common leftist tactic of course but it’s easily countered if there’s proof of the video’s veracity.

It’s not too much to ask to be able to prove to anyone who would doubt it that it is what it claims to show. For anyone to think such a simple request is somehow caving to anything is absolutely ludicrous. That’s just engaging in hero worship, something we always (rightly) accuse the left of doing re Obama, Clinton, etc. We can’t let ourselves go down that same road.


75 posted on 12/01/2017 8:54:38 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Fantasywriter
Trump makes fewer mistakes than some think. He generally knows what he’s doing.

I believe his actions are far more calculated and a lot less impulsive than some people here seem to believe, as well.

76 posted on 12/01/2017 8:55:22 AM PST by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: According2RecentPollsAirIsGood
Btw, nice name and tagline. I just started playing for the first time this year. When I’m killing cultists with my Ranger tomorrow, I’ll envision them as the cultist Left and make it extra painful.

Excellent! May your D20 whale on some witches!

77 posted on 12/01/2017 8:57:03 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Goblins, Orcs and the Undead: Metaphors for the godless left.)
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To: clamper1797
I like cheese

Just make sure that you keep it away from Møøsës ...

78 posted on 12/01/2017 9:00:47 AM PST by BlueLancer (ANTIFA - The new and improved SturmAbteilung)
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To: FourtySeven

> Let me be clear there’s nothing wrong with retweeting such a video or videos to get the message out about such barbarity. You just can’t rely on faked material to do it. <

Excellent argument there. And that’s exactly the point I was trying to make, in my somewhat disorganized way. Thanks for the post.


79 posted on 12/01/2017 9:01:30 AM PST by Leaning Right
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To: Mariner

Their furor over President Trump’s actions aren’t because the videos are false.

It is because the message of the videos is true.

And by tweeting the videos Trump showed them up on the international stage for the traitorous muslim enabling poofters that they really are.

Why don’t the real British Patriots rise up and reclaim their country?

Because they do not have a Second Amendment.
Their ancestors allowed the government to confiscate their guns little by little over the last 100 years.


80 posted on 12/01/2017 9:03:49 AM PST by Vlad The Inhaler (United We Stand - Divided We Fall. Remember: Diversity is the opposite of unity.)
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