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DOJ weighing federal charges in Kate Steinle murder case, after not guilty verdict
Fox News ^ | 12/01/2017 | Jake Gibson

Posted on 12/01/2017 5:51:14 AM PST by Bon of Babble

The Justice Department is considering bringing federal charges against Jose Ines Garcia Zarate after his not guilty verdict in the Kate Steinle murder trial, department officials told Fox News on Friday.

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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Try him on different charges, like they did with the cops in the Rodney King incident.
Civil rights violation.


41 posted on 12/01/2017 6:36:00 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: vette6387
You childish moron!

Such intelligent discourse.

42 posted on 12/01/2017 6:36:26 AM PST by Professional Engineer (This account has been banned or suspended.)
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To: Bon of Babble

I was hoping this would happen. If this does happen, please choose an American venue.


43 posted on 12/01/2017 6:38:00 AM PST by Maris Crane (.)
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To: Bon of Babble

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44 posted on 12/01/2017 6:38:30 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The fastest way to drain the DC swamp is to simply expose it! Sunlight does aid in evaporation!)
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To: Bon of Babble

Yes, please try this animal on federal charges.

But not in Mexifornia.


45 posted on 12/01/2017 6:38:33 AM PST by SharpRightTurn (Chuck Schumer--giving pond scum everywhere a bad name.)
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To: Ancient Man

Kate Steinle’s life was sacrificed at the alter of the Bipartisan strategy to flood America with illegal immigrants ....................

It’s the Bush Plan for North Mexico


46 posted on 12/01/2017 6:38:52 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin
Civil rights violation.

Show me the "civil rights" double-jeopardy exemption in the US Constitution.

47 posted on 12/01/2017 6:42:36 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

can they not retry on another charge? They went for murder 1 right? how about 2nd degree?

how the hell they got it wrong, even in liberal sanfransicko is beyond me.

I didn’t realize our country was this far gone.


48 posted on 12/01/2017 6:42:41 AM PST by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

“double-jeopardy is unconstitutional and there is no.t feral government exception”

That is wrong. The federal and California governments are separate sovereigns. He can be charged under the exact same facts by the Feds without double jeopardy being an issue.


49 posted on 12/01/2017 6:51:32 AM PST by Stingray51
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To: Lurker

They can also charge him with felon in possession of a firearm, which I believe is also a federal offense. It does not matter that California convicted him of its version of the same offense.


50 posted on 12/01/2017 6:52:39 AM PST by Stingray51
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Show me the double standard clause. If it was good enough for the cops vs Rodney King, it’s good enough for a foreign invader who gunned down a US citizen. If they didn’t want the King case to set a precedent, they shouldn’t have done it.

Or are you arguing that foreign invaders who commit murder have more rights than cops who use excessive force?


51 posted on 12/01/2017 6:53:39 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The reason they use “civil rights” charges in homicide cases is because there is no general federal law against regular old murder. This case is different in that there is a federal crime of being a felon in possession of a firearm. Either way, the concept of double jeopardy does not apply. (Perhaps it should but it does not.)


52 posted on 12/01/2017 6:54:22 AM PST by Stingray51
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As for double jeopardy, the Bundy trial is a good example of on-going double jeopardy in a THIRD trial for the same acts.


53 posted on 12/01/2017 6:54:46 AM PST by RideForever
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To: CIB-173RDABN
Good point:
Another point, the gun used was stolen from a Federal Officer. He was not tried on this charge. The Feds can certainly charge him for taking and then using the gun.

The add to the charges by having a Federal officer interview him. He will lie.

54 posted on 12/01/2017 6:56:08 AM PST by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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To: Ancient Man

STEPHAN MOLYNEUX: What Pisses Me Off About The Kate Steinle Murder Acquittal
https://youtu.be/kTgXV__ZbVE


55 posted on 12/01/2017 6:58:08 AM PST by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Stingray51

Hadn’t thought of that. Thanks.

L


56 posted on 12/01/2017 7:27:53 AM PST by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: Alberta's Child

The DOJ needs to make a public statement that he is going to testify against Hillery in the ongoing email scandal.


57 posted on 12/01/2017 7:45:56 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

What you said.
Just deport him.


58 posted on 12/01/2017 8:12:37 AM PST by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

See Heath v Alabama. The Duel-sovereignty doctrine. The feds absolutely can go after him for federal charges. 18 USC 922 is a no brainer.

“The dual sovereignty doctrine is founded on the common-law conception of crime as an offense against the sovereignty of the government. When a defendant in a single act violates the “peace and dignity” of two sovereigns by breaking the laws of each, he has committed two distinct “offences.” As the Court explained in Moore v. Illinois, “[a]n offence, in its legal signification, means the transgression of a law.” Consequently, when the same act transgresses the laws of two sovereigns, “it cannot be truly averred that the offender has been twice punished for the same offence; but only that by one act he has committed two offences, for each of which he is justly punishable.”


59 posted on 12/01/2017 8:13:56 AM PST by TexasGurl24
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To: Stingray51
That is wrong. The federal and California governments are separate sovereigns. He can be charged under the exact same facts by the Feds without double jeopardy being an issue.

You are correct. See Heath v Alabama.

60 posted on 12/01/2017 8:15:40 AM PST by TexasGurl24
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