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Report: Trump continues to question Obama's birth certificate
CNN ^ | 11/29/17 | Sophie Tatum and Jim Acosta

Posted on 11/29/2017 5:32:11 PM PST by Seizethecarp

President Donald Trump questioned the politics of his decision to finally acknowledge former President Barack Obama was born in the US, which he did late during the campaign in 2016, according to a source close to the White House.

The source said that shortly after he made the statement, Trump told aides that he would have done better in the polls had he continued to stand his ground on the birth certificate issue.

Trump has continued to question the legitimacy of Obama's birth certificate during private conversations in recent months, The New York Times reported Tuesday, citing advisers who discussed Trump's statements.

Trump still questioning Obama's birthplace is just one of several instances The Times pointed to as examples of the President's reliance on "manufactured facts," as the newspaper reported Tuesday.

One sitting US senator quoted by the Times, "who listened as the President revived his doubts" about the issue, "chuckled" when speaking about what was said. Trump "has had a hard time letting go of his claim that Mr. Obama was not born in the United States," the senator, who "asked not to be named to discuss private conversations," told The New York Times.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: birthers; certifigate; fakenews; naturalborncitizen; obama; sheriffarpaio; trump; trumpobama; trumpobamabc
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To: Brown Deer

Yes, I cry a lot over the conspiritards.

I’m moved to tears that some folks are so stupid that
they will believe any trash that is made up to fill a
void of things that are unknown.

I blame the parents, mostly, for raising such simpletons.


121 posted on 12/02/2017 2:16:16 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

Sounds like you are talking about yourself. What a lowly sad person you are. Your poor parents.


122 posted on 12/02/2017 3:17:20 PM PST by Brown Deer (America First!)
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To: Brown Deer

Yeah, I’m the retard that buys into all the conspiracy trash.

Whatever delusions you need to get by, feel free to embrace.

I’ll just be over here all lowly and sad, laughing.


123 posted on 12/02/2017 3:21:19 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner
Yeah, I’m the retard that buys into all the conspiracy trash.

That's the first step, admitting what you are. Keep working on it and maybe someday you'll make your parents proud.
124 posted on 12/02/2017 3:24:48 PM PST by Brown Deer (America First!)
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To: Fantasywriter

I think your scenario makes the most sense.

A Canadian birth makes the appearance of Stanley Ann at the University of Washington near the end of August, 1961, much more plausible.

My recollection from a thread years ago is that the records of those entering the US at Bellingham,WA were missing or destroyed for that time frame in 1961.

Thus, while everyone is looking for records of those coming from overseas in August, 1961(of which ones for an entire week are missing, and perhaps purposely so, to feed the false Kenyan narrative), no one looks at Canada—a classic deflection technique.

Personally, I don’t believe that Barack Obama Sr. is Zero’s biological father. I think he agreed to the role in order to stay in HI for schooling, and was probably paid to be “married” to Stanley Ann. The baby Zero was important to the Communist cell that Frank Marshall Davis and the Senior Dunhams belonged to.

In any event the entire “biography” of Zero is spun of whole cloth. He was groomed by someone to be who he became, and he was always an enemy of the Republic.


125 posted on 12/02/2017 3:40:51 PM PST by exit82 (The opposition has already been Trumped!)
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To: Brown Deer
maybe someday you'll make your parents proud.

Alas, it cannot be.

The Deep State Obama Evil Operatives poisoned my parents
and stripped the wires on their van and turned them into
vegetables because I dared to write nutball crap on my blog.

I'm a victim, you must listen to me.

My parents died for this nutball crap, my kids died from
this nutball crap, and that Fuddy bitch is trying to kill me next!

HELP me for God's sake!

126 posted on 12/02/2017 3:41:37 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

Damn! I got off light. The deep state just made one key on my keyboard malfunction and they shut down my favorite taco truck.


127 posted on 12/02/2017 3:45:36 PM PST by 50mm (.. / -.. .. -.. / - .... .. ... / ..-. --- .-. / -. --- / .-. . .- ... --- -. .-.-.-)
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To: 50mm

They gave you a speech impediment and tried to starve you.

Wake up!


128 posted on 12/02/2017 3:59:56 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner
Check this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3609973/posts

129 posted on 12/02/2017 4:04:43 PM PST by 50mm (.. / -.. .. -.. / - .... .. ... / ..-. --- .-. / -. --- / .-. . .- ... --- -. .-.-.-)
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To: exit82

Agree. Only a Canadian birth dots every i and crosses every t.

‘Thus, while everyone is looking for records of those coming from overseas in August, 1961(of which ones for an entire week are missing, and perhaps purposely so, to feed the false Kenyan narrative), no one looks at Canada—a classic deflection technique.’

Two points. Throughout his presidency, Obama alluded to his Kenyan birth. He did it jokingly, but it was just as you posted above: misdirection, to keep people from seeing the obvious: Seattle with a newborn, and an aunt in Canada.

As for the missing records, that was not misdirection. This was in ‘61, when it was typical for mothers who could do so to be with their daughters during the first birth. Almost certainly Granny Dunham flew to Canada to be with her only child. This explains why Obama identified the third week in July as his birthdate. That’s when he was actually born, but August 4 is the day Granny, having flown back to HI, managed to effect a shady ‘birth record,’ for her grandson. She wanted him to be a US citizen.


130 posted on 12/02/2017 4:36:15 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: exit82

One thing I left out. The original idea was for Stanley Ann to give the baby up for adoption. For whatever reason that plan fell through. That’s why Granny had to record a HI birth. They hadn’t thought giving birth in Canada would be an issue, bc SA was supposed to leave the baby there.


131 posted on 12/02/2017 4:39:50 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

Thanks for the two posts with the additional info.

Granny Dunham was a volunteer at the HI Probate Court as I recall, thus she had access to records.

And it was a Commie Party tactic to use birth records of dead infants to obtain false SS numbers, to obtain benefits fraudulently.

It is important that Obama be unmasked, and I think that will eventually happen.


132 posted on 12/02/2017 5:20:46 PM PST by exit82 (The opposition has already been Trumped!)
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To: exit82

You’re welcome. I too believe the truth will come out about Obama. Historically it tends to. These deceptions go along well for a while but eventually unravel. The truth has more staying power than a fraud.


133 posted on 12/02/2017 5:29:38 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Brown Deer; humblegunner

BD, it’s a noble effort but this guy is a waste of time. I have never - not once - seen him ever engage in conversation over actual evidence. All I’ve ever seen him do is mock. Just like all the liberals were doing when now-proven stories first came out.

So he truly is the “retard” that buys into all the conspiracy trash. He seems to think that CNN etc are the only credible stories for posting. His mama and papa never taught him to analyze and evaluate actual evidence, instead using childish ad hominems to get the more serious people off-track.

It’s sad.. Maybe he has an IQ that doesn’t allow anything better. If so, I’m sorry for him.


134 posted on 12/02/2017 9:21:44 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
I have never - not once - seen him ever engage in conversation over actual evidence.

I tried, but the Ninja Frogmen came and deleted it.


135 posted on 12/03/2017 12:04:38 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

True to form.

Never anything of real substance. You’re a troll.


136 posted on 12/03/2017 5:32:58 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

Your idea of “substance” is to make up fantasies about things which are unknown.

So no.. I haven’t any of that.


137 posted on 12/03/2017 5:42:24 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

My idea of substance:

FOIA requests and responses for official records, including those claiming (first) that records were destroyed and (later) that no records were ever gathered on a fatal commercial airline crash...those claiming (first) that there were no watercraft in the area at the time, and then (later) a record of two previously-undisclosed watercraft that were in the area at the time, but with the ZULU notation removed so the fact that the LaJolla was moved into the area right before this water landing occurred... records showing that NO LAW ENFORCEMENT BODY conducted an investigation of this “death”.... records showing that the COD changed even when there was no additional evidence that came in to justify the change.... etc

Analysis of audio recordings showing an engine running normally after a supposed “catastrophic engine failure”. Photographic proof that the engine was still getting fuel as normal at the very time that the pilot claimed the engine was dead.

Contrast of photo of plane showing recessed screws, versus NTSB’s photo of the nosepiece pulled up having protruding screws.

Contrast of salvage photos the NTSB gave to Bruce Briley with the same salvage photos released in the NTSB’s official report - showing the photoshopping that was done.

Topographic maps of the ocean floor where the plane went down.

Photographic evidence of people standing in the water - including Keith Yamamoto who was standing right next to Loretta Fuddy as she was supposedly panicking and giving herself an arrhythmia.

Photographic evidence of electronic communications devices in the water and being used by one of the other passengers so that no ignorance can be claimed. That passenger’s husband has now attacked our book even though he has not purchased a book to see the documentation. It is not disclosed how much settlement money he and his wife got, or who paid it.

Photographic evidence of Loretta Fuddy in the water (at the time she supposedly died) in a fully-inflated adult life jacket, contrasting with the records saying the USCG removed from her an INFANT life jacket with only one CO2 cartridge punctured and their photo of that infant life jacket.

The statute describing the DOH Director’s embossed seal and authorizing its use for certifications NEAR THE SIGNATURE OF THE DIRECTOR, contrasted with photographic evidence of the seal on the AZ “letter of verification” next to a ruler AND photographic evidence of Onaka’s seal next to a ruler on an official certified COLB - showing that the AZ seal is 2 1/4” in diameter (the director’s seal) and Onaka’s seal is 1 5/8”. We know that Fuddy used the seal on the AZ “verification” and we know that she is only authorized to use the official (embossed 2 1/4”) seal NEXT TO HER SIGNATURE, which is nowhere on the AZ verification. These are FACTS.

When you say my “substance” is made-up fantasies you are projecting. You are the one posting ninja frog cartoons. I am the one dealing with EVIDENCE such as the above, which you (conveniently) have NEVER been willing to address.

You are so obvious it’s not even funny.


138 posted on 12/03/2017 6:04:00 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

should have been “to HIDE the fact that the LaJolla was moved into the area right before this water landing occurred”


139 posted on 12/03/2017 6:06:21 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

should have been “to HIDE the fact that the LaJolla was moved into the area right before this water landing occurred”


140 posted on 12/03/2017 6:06:40 AM PST by butterdezillion
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