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Missing Argentine submarine 'is located by US Navy and a new sonar signal heard' as rescuers race
(UK) Daily Mail ^ | November 22, 2017 | Sara Malm

Posted on 11/22/2017 6:57:42 AM PST by Zakeet

Complete Headline: Missing Argentine submarine 'is located by US Navy and a new sonar signal heard' as rescuers race to the spot with oxygen due to run out imminently

The missing Argentine submarine may have been located early this morning, after a US Navy aircraft allegedly detected a 'heat stain' from 230ft below the surface, some 185miles from the coast, and a rescue vessel separately reported hearing a sonar signal.

The ARA San Juan was sailing from Ushuaia to Mar del Plata when it disappeared with 44 crew members last Wednesday, including Argentina's first female submariner Eliana Krawczyk, 35, and Luis Niz, 25, who is due to get married in two weeks time.

The crew's oxygen supply was due to run out this morning as they only had enough on board to last seven days - leaving the international rescue mission racing against time to the spot where the signals were detected.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: argentina; elianakrawczyk; luisniz; missingsub; navy; rescue; submarine
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To: dowcaet

The continental shelf goes all the waY out to the Falkland Islands. So the depth increases very slowly as you move away from the coastline. We have a similar situation off the US eastcoast. It’s so shallow that German U-boats couldn’t ‘get under’ some of our depth charge attacks.

Google U-352. I dove that wreck. Only 110 fsw.


61 posted on 11/22/2017 8:36:16 AM PST by Tallguy (Twitter short-circuits common sense. Please engage your brain before tweeting.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Cool water map.

I’ve got to put them in God’s hands. So much can go wrong.


62 posted on 11/22/2017 8:38:25 AM PST by Delta 21 (Build The Wall !! Jail The Cankle !!)
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To: relee

Don’t be so quick to give up. The men and woman on that boat are submariners. The best, most ingenious, and downright sneakiest sailors in that or any other Navy. The rule books say 7 days normal operating routine. But, they’ve been in their bunks, conserving O2 in every way. Much like the astronauts in Apollo XIII their biggest worry is CO2. There are ways to deal with that. Submariners don’t know how to give up!


63 posted on 11/22/2017 8:39:39 AM PST by 75thOVI ("The crews of all submarines captured should be treated as pirates and hanged". Sir Arthur Wilson)
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To: SunkenCiv

The “signals” turned out not to exist. They’re dead.


64 posted on 11/22/2017 8:40:25 AM PST by Az Joe (Gloria in excelsis Deo)
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To: Zakeet

Prayers up...


65 posted on 11/22/2017 8:41:25 AM PST by GOPJ (https://www.reddit.com/r/StumpSheet/comments/6ec3z1/fake_hate_crimes_official/)
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To: schurmann
Ballast tank blow used to be performed by compressed air, held in reserve tanks. Worked faster than pumps, less prone to malfunction, ...

Saw a doc on the USS Thresher. One of the theories was that the Thresher had rigid screens over the emergency tank nozzles, and given expanding air sucking the heat out of a moist environment, the screens iced up, blocking, then clogging the nozzles.

From my scuba days, I remember regulator companies hyping transferring heat from exhaled breath to the regulator internals. (Granted, regulators claimed to be designed to fail "open" anyway.)

66 posted on 11/22/2017 8:41:42 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: caltaxed

As long as we dont ram the sub during the rescue.


67 posted on 11/22/2017 8:53:34 AM PST by Jaysin
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To: Delta 21; Az Joe

Among the last things the sub crew reported was a fire — it isn’t unlikely that the fire asphyxiated everyone on board shortly thereafter, regardless of what other problems had arisen, and aboard submarines, one problem generally proliferates into multiple problems.


68 posted on 11/22/2017 9:07:19 AM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Zakeet; laconic; Vermont Lt; xzins; vladimir998; CGASMIA68; bramps; caltaxed; Road Warrior ‘04; ...

alas:

...‘heat signal’ turns out to be a FALSE ALARM
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4970759/argentine-submarine-missing-signal-false-alarm-oxygen-crew/


69 posted on 11/22/2017 9:21:10 AM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

I would think they would be able to do something like that - maybe personal air supplies (tank/mask). Taking crew members out will reduce the load on what oxygen supply is left, too.

I hope they’ve truly found the sub and if so, can get to the crew in time.


70 posted on 11/22/2017 9:23:26 AM PST by Qiviut (Obama's Legacy in two words: DONALD TRUMP)
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To: SunkenCiv

Daggone it .... I was worried they really didn’t have it located.


71 posted on 11/22/2017 9:24:26 AM PST by Qiviut (Obama's Legacy in two words: DONALD TRUMP)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks for the update.


72 posted on 11/22/2017 9:27:07 AM PST by Obadiah
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To: Bookshelf
"Argentines hate everyone."

Well, not EVERYONE - they always seemed to have a soft spot for Nazis....

73 posted on 11/22/2017 9:29:00 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Psalm 73

Amen


74 posted on 11/22/2017 9:29:22 AM PST by bonfire
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To: SunkenCiv

My first reaction to the “heat signature” story was “Wait! Our detection equipment is THAT sensitive?”

If they have a acoustic fix, they’ll walk-back that thermal detection story just to keep the details secret.


75 posted on 11/22/2017 9:30:09 AM PST by Tallguy (Twitter short-circuits common sense. Please engage your brain before tweeting.)
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To: Tallguy

Good point!


76 posted on 11/22/2017 9:38:35 AM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SunkenCiv

Well, crap.

AND, they’ll probably blame Trump for it, too.


77 posted on 11/22/2017 10:39:44 AM PST by RandallFlagg (Vote for your guns!)
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To: RandallFlagg
Very likely. The good news is, he's got over seven years left in office, by the look of things, and they'll all be hooked on prescription downers by then. :^)

78 posted on 11/22/2017 10:59:10 AM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SunkenCiv
The Soviets ended up losing a sub that had a fire. The fire compromised the auxiliary air system, so when the fire crew plugged their respirators into it, they dropped dead.

Most of the crew got off on the surface, before it sank. I think only one of the officers in the escape pod managed to escape before it too, sank.

79 posted on 11/22/2017 11:14:52 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Zakeet

Shades of the Chilean miner story. Let’s hope this has an equally happy ending.


80 posted on 11/22/2017 11:19:55 AM PST by sparklite2 (-)
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