Roy Moore’s Accusers’ Stories Getting Shaky, Moore Team Planning Lawsuit

Constitution.com ^ | 11/17/2017 | Onan Coca

[SeekAndFind]

I don’t know if Judge Roy Moore (R-AL) is guilty or innocent of the crimes he’s been accused of. If guilty he deserves every sling and arrow he’s faced thus far, and many more to come.

However, if he’s innocent, he deserves to be heard and his accusers should face repercussions for maligning his good name and for attempting to destroy the democratic process in Alabama.

The majority of the accusations against Moore are NOT criminal, but sure are icky. Basically, they seem to suggest that Moore had a penchant for underage girls. However, two of the accusations rise to the level of criminal action. One accusation claims that Moore had a physical, sexual relationship with a 14-year old girl (though the two never had sex, they committed sex acts with each other). The other, more recent accusation, is that Moore cornered another girl and attempted to force himself on her but then kicked her out of his car.

Moore denies both of these accusations, but is more cryptic on the possibility that he dated teenage girls.

Moore’s legal team has also begun the process of suing the media outlets that he believes have acted irresponsibly in reporting this story, and may also be planning to sue his accusers.

While Moore has faced withering criticism from all who oppose his candidacy, the last few days have also brought some hard questions for his accusers.

A young woman who worked with Judge Moore as a teen told the Conservative Post that she never saw an inkling of this kind of behavior from Moore.

Yes, I absolutely believe (the) Judge is innocent!” Beth told Conservative Tribune. “I’ve known him and his family for years. I was a teenager when I first started working in his campaign. And he always honored and respected me and all the others. I always felt safe around him, I never once felt uncomfortable.”

Earlier this week the New Yorker and Mediaite both reported that Judge Moore had been “banned” from the mall in Gadsden, Alabama because of his bad behavior. The only problem with this is that it’s just not true.

The man who actually ran the mall recently told the local Fox News affiliate that the stories about Moore being banned aren’t true.

WBRC FOX6 News – Birmingham, AL

The stepson of Judge Moore’s most aggressive accuser is telling anyone who will listen that Beverly Young Nelson is an untrustworthy liar.

“I know for a fact that there is a lot that that woman does not tell the truth on,” Nelson claimed in an in-person interview with Breitbart News. “Do I think that Beverly is trustworthy? No, I really don’t. Could I see her making it up? …The odds are in that favor.”

The stepson, John Nelson, further argues that he believes his stepmother is being paid to make false accusations against Judge Moore.

During the interview here in Attalla, Nelson surmised numerous times without offering any evidence that Beverly Nelson was getting paid to make the accusations against Moore.

“There is a lot of details that just does not add up,” he stated. “Do I believe that she is being paid? I have got a feeling that that is so.”

“It’s got to be money. Financially, I really do believe that she is out for the money part. Somebody is paying somebody. It seems awful funny. Twenty-five days or so until the election. Why wait until just now to start doing all of this?”

Finally, the most damning piece of evidence offered by Beverly Young Nelson and her attorney Gloria Allred, was a yearbook that had reportedly been signed by Judge Moore. The only problem? The inscription seems to have been written by at least two different people and the dates don’t make a whole lot of sense in the flow of the story Nelson is telling. Because of these facts, Moore’s lawyers have asked that Allred allow the inscription to be validated by handwriting experts but Allred flatly refused.

Allred then called into CNN, reaching Wolf Blitzer live on The Situation Room. She said that she would be willing to submit the yearbook to “an independent expert or experts” — but only once her client and Moore had testified under oath before the Senate Judiciary Committee and the Senate Select Committee on Ethics before the election. She would not agree to have the yearbook examined otherwise, claiming “we’re not going to be distracted.”

That was a major mistake. By trying to use the yearbook — the critical piece of evidence in establishing Nelson’s credibility — as leverage to force a Senate hearing before the election, Allred seemed to put politics ahead of the truth. Worse, she opened herself and her client to questions about whether they have something to hide. Whatever the truth of Jauregui’s claims that the yearbook signature is a “fraud,” Allred lent those claims greater credibility.

None of these things offer definitive proof of Moore’s innocence but they do at least demand that we proceed with care in adjudicating what has taken place. Moore should not be judged guilty for crimes he may not have committed, and his accusers should not be called liars before the truth has been discovered. Both sides deserve to be treated with dignity and respect, and both sides deserve a rational, and considerate media investigating the allegations.

Sadly, from what we’ve seen so far, the media cares more about reporting a salacious story than they do finding the truth.

[Sacajaweau]

Nothing criminal about giving someone money. Unless you write "For lying" on the memo line.

Wonder if they have an actual contract....one with an affidavit that says Beverly is telling the truth.

[HombreSecreto]

Or here are a couple of international examples that don’t seem to generate any outrage:

1. Prince Charles / Lady Diana - 12 years (he 32, she 20 when married).

What I did not know was that Charles started dating Diana after he had broken up with her older sister! Any of the libs whining about that conduct? Nope, don’t think so.

2. Emmanuel and Brigitte Macron - 25 years

Apparently when they met he was 15 and she was his 40 year old TEACHER (married with children). His parents tried to keep him away from her without success. All the libs celebrate this like some kind of victory.

If liberals didn’t have double standards, they’d have none at all, imo.

[bmwcyle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFNDL0EztOU

First witness

[crusher2013]

That’s it in a nutshell.

I hope the voters are smart enough to realize that.

[Art in Idaho]

Thanks for doing the homework and the great list.

Roy Moore is a victim of scurrilous accusations. Nothing more, nothing less. There is no evidence he has done anything wrong.

He has not committed a crime. He has done nothing illegal, immoral or unethical.

Can we say that unequivocally about every dem in Congress?

[hal ogen]

Maybe if we get access to the names of the congresslosers proitected by the $15,000,000 taxpayers’ money payoffs to cover their sexual perversion attacks...

[hal ogen]

Maybe if we get access to the names of the congresslosers protected by the $15,000,000 taxpayers’ money payoffs to cover their sexual perversion attacks...

[Art in Idaho]

Maybe if we get access to the names of the congresslosers protected by the $15,000,000 taxpayers’ money payoffs to cover their sexual perversion attacks...

That would be great. Laura Ingraham said she was going to stay on it. . Hope the truth comes out.

[Bodleian_Girl]

The Birmingham News has been on a rampage against Judge Roy Moore for many years, especially since their alleged lesbian editor took over as the main editor for the 3 largest newspapers in the state of Alabama and Judge Moore came out against sodomite marriage.

I've met her and she is VERY butch.

Kyle Whitmire is an effete "columnist" there (though he's married) and he's written with more vitriol against Judge Moore than anyone, with the possible exception of John "I forgot I declared bankruptcy and I've got a gay brother" Archibald.

They hate Judge Moore and they have made it clear that they do.

Their jobs are also dependent on pleasing their editor. Those 3 papers are owned by Advance and they have laid off over 40% of their employees in the past few years and now only print 3 days a week.

So you have lesbains and leftists calling the shots and maybe a couple of people who are afraid to speak out in fear of losing their jobs.

But this is a hate campaign of the highest order.

http://alamo-girl.com/thedead.htm

[sarge83]

If these accusations are true then back it up I say. Otherwise Moore has no recourse but to file suit on these women for the damages they have done to him.

The women can’t have it both ways the liberal left wants. You can’t willy-nilly make all kinds of wild accusations and then demand the accused to be silent and not defend themselves simply because a woman is making the charge. Women lie, just like men do.

If a sexual harassment event occurs file a complaint right then, you have more credibility than waiting 40 yrs. and showing up in the middle of a political campaign. And if you are guilty then you should suffer the consequences and filing a complaint immediately allows for real evidence to be presented not just he said/she said.

This whole I’m a woman you must believe everything I say and suffer the consequences whether you are guilty or not will end up bad for the women in the long run. Who’s going to hire them? Why would you and risk all this mess. On the down side a few make it miserable for a lot of women who are really good at their jobs. This will not end well for men or women.

[j.havenfarm]

Completely divorced from the Moore situation, often here the cudgel of “sue, sue sue” is taken up. As someone in the field for a long long time, I’m telling you that the
Media companies have a bajillion lawyers and they aren’t intimidated in the slightest. Even if they’re wrong Moore would run into the Sullivan v. New York Times buzz saw. Even if they file, the suit would go nowhere. As to suing the women... really? Assuming he can win, it would be long and very messy, they’d have pro bono left wing lawyers and, if he did win, reducing them to poverty would be played how by the liberal press????

[The Great RJ]

I find it strange that Moore, who has been on the political stage in Alabama for decades, to have these accusers just show up in this election. Were all of these accusers in a coma or have amnesia for the last four decades? Certainly if Moore had the reputation as a leacher it would have been known in a small state like Alabama. Even Bil Clinton’s peccadilloes were relatively common knowledge in Arkansas.

[Sam Gamgee]

I was thinking that as well, that they dropped this bomb a bit too early. Funny there are those that are suggesting the election be delayed. I think that would be to Moore’s benefit, though I don’t know if I can stomach another month of this.

[Sam Gamgee]

I hate the House of Bush, but Al Gore? God, that would have been horrible having that fraud and idiot as POTUS.

[Sam Gamgee]

100% this is the GOP Senate swamp. Who needs Democrats when Republicans like Ryan, Ted Cruz will drive the blade into the back of your skull?

[apocalypto]

Good point!

[Sam Gamgee]

God is coming soon when a state like Alabama has a trans gender legislator.

[Tammy8]

True. In the beginning the slightest hint of impropriety was enough for Republicans to throw their own under the bus ASAP. As time has gone on we are becoming wiser to the dirty tricks by the dims and the media; more and more of us are asking for some proof or hard evidence.

[techrules2002]

They could even look into the company who made the stamp - I’ve still got the files from signature stamps I made from the time I started in business - and that would even have the added bonus of being a disinterested third party.

[techrules2002]

They could even look into the company who made the stamp - I’ve still got the files from signature stamps I made from the time I started in business - and that would even have the added bonus of being a disinterested third party.