Posted on 11/17/2017 9:04:58 AM PST by SeekAndFind
However, if he’s innocent, he deserves to be heard and his accusers should face repercussions for maligning his good name and for attempting to destroy the democratic process in Alabama.
The majority of the accusations against Moore are NOT criminal, but sure are icky. Basically, they seem to suggest that Moore had a penchant for underage girls. However, two of the accusations rise to the level of criminal action. One accusation claims that Moore had a physical, sexual relationship with a 14-year old girl (though the two never had sex, they committed sex acts with each other). The other, more recent accusation, is that Moore cornered another girl and attempted to force himself on her but then kicked her out of his car.
Moore denies both of these accusations, but is more cryptic on the possibility that he dated teenage girls.
Moore’s legal team has also begun the process of suing the media outlets that he believes have acted irresponsibly in reporting this story, and may also be planning to sue his accusers.
While Moore has faced withering criticism from all who oppose his candidacy, the last few days have also brought some hard questions for his accusers.
A young woman who worked with Judge Moore as a teen told the Conservative Post that she never saw an inkling of this kind of behavior from Moore.
Yes, I absolutely believe (the) Judge is innocent! Beth told Conservative Tribune. Ive known him and his family for years. I was a teenager when I first started working in his campaign. And he always honored and respected me and all the others. I always felt safe around him, I never once felt uncomfortable.
Earlier this week the New Yorker and Mediaite both reported that Judge Moore had been “banned” from the mall in Gadsden, Alabama because of his bad behavior. The only problem with this is that it’s just not true.
The man who actually ran the mall recently told the local Fox News affiliate that the stories about Moore being banned aren’t true.
WBRC FOX6 News – Birmingham, AL
The stepson of Judge Moore’s most aggressive accuser is telling anyone who will listen that Beverly Young Nelson is an untrustworthy liar.
I know for a fact that there is a lot that that woman does not tell the truth on, Nelson claimed in an in-person interview with Breitbart News. Do I think that Beverly is trustworthy? No, I really dont. Could I see her making it up? The odds are in that favor.
The stepson, John Nelson, further argues that he believes his stepmother is being paid to make false accusations against Judge Moore.
During the interview here in Attalla, Nelson surmised numerous times without offering any evidence that Beverly Nelson was getting paid to make the accusations against Moore.
There is a lot of details that just does not add up, he stated. Do I believe that she is being paid? I have got a feeling that that is so.
Its got to be money. Financially, I really do believe that she is out for the money part. Somebody is paying somebody. It seems awful funny. Twenty-five days or so until the election. Why wait until just now to start doing all of this?
Finally, the most damning piece of evidence offered by Beverly Young Nelson and her attorney Gloria Allred, was a yearbook that had reportedly been signed by Judge Moore. The only problem? The inscription seems to have been written by at least two different people and the dates don’t make a whole lot of sense in the flow of the story Nelson is telling. Because of these facts, Moore’s lawyers have asked that Allred allow the inscription to be validated by handwriting experts but Allred flatly refused.
Allred then called into CNN, reaching Wolf Blitzer live on The Situation Room. She said that she would be willing to submit the yearbook to an independent expert or experts but only once her client and Moore had testified under oath before the Senate Judiciary Committee and the Senate Select Committee on Ethics before the election. She would not agree to have the yearbook examined otherwise, claiming were not going to be distracted.
That was a major mistake. By trying to use the yearbook the critical piece of evidence in establishing Nelsons credibility as leverage to force a Senate hearing before the election, Allred seemed to put politics ahead of the truth. Worse, she opened herself and her client to questions about whether they have something to hide. Whatever the truth of Jaureguis claims that the yearbook signature is a fraud, Allred lent those claims greater credibility.
None of these things offer definitive proof of Moore’s innocence but they do at least demand that we proceed with care in adjudicating what has taken place. Moore should not be judged guilty for crimes he may not have committed, and his accusers should not be called liars before the truth has been discovered. Both sides deserve to be treated with dignity and respect, and both sides deserve a rational, and considerate media investigating the allegations.
Sadly, from what we’ve seen so far, the media cares more about reporting a salacious story than they do finding the truth.
Sue the bejesus out of ALL of them if they are lying!!
Allred and these kinds of accusations should be obliterated. They overplayed their hand big time. The paradigm has shifted.
WE CAN USE THIS TO SHOW HOW DEMOCRATS ARE
THEY GOT AWAY WITH THIS TYPE OF CRAP FOR DECADES
Alabama Female Faith Leaders to Hold Press Conference Friday in Support of Judge Roy Moore
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3605356/posts
Moore campaign releases statements from 12 women to affirm Roy Moore’s character
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3605295/posts
Former Gadsden mall manager says Roy Moore wasn’t banned
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3605253/posts
Mostly a We Said-They Said situation, with many holes in the accusers’ stories. The only physical evidence - the yearbook - has been discredited & even Allred can’t vouch for its authenticity.
Allred may be forced to by court order to produce the yearbook.
Moore is setting Nelson and Allred up for claims of at least slander and defamation, forgery and election tampering.
Oh My...will be hung at sunrise??? ...will be run out of town on a rail??? ...will loose all those pockets full of money???
I hope Judge Moore sues them for everything they have and everything they hope to have...lets see these swamp critters out on the streets begging for money like they have made some of our finest live like!!!
LIVE: Alabama women speak in defense of embattled GOP candidate Roy Moore. https://t.co/EZFK7ZHCUm pic.twitter.com/zx39GyGFsa ABC News Politics (@ABCPolitics) November 17, 2017
Since there is no time for a trial, the people of Alabama will decide whether or not to believe any of this nonsense. Best moment of the week was Wolf Blitzed on CNN grilling All-Red. When you've lost CNN, you've lost the war, swampies. If I were a betting man, I'd put it all on Judge Moore. He's a modern day Joseph from the Bible, similar false accusations (except with Joseph they at least had the decency not to wait 40 years later in their destruction campaign). Hopefully the outcome will be the same as well.
From what I heard on the radio, some of the claims are just stupid. For instance an 18 year old girl went on a date with Roy More, age 32, and they kissed at the end, and she didn't like it and was uncomfortable.
That's not a crime, and she's not a "teenager" the way the word is being used.
IN THE CURRENT YEAR: The same people saying "Ray More was dating (18 Year Old) teenagers", and think it's a terrible thing support the right of 18 year olds to make hard-core porno.
It would be great if (now that we are all concerned about "teenagers" who are 18 and 19 - if a GOP Cultural Conservative (we have those still, right?) introduced the "Protect Our Teenagers from Sexual Exploitation" law, that raised the age of consent for porn "actors" to 21.
Too young to buy a whiskey at the bar, too young to be filmed having sex. Seems like a simple concept.
What would be great about this would be watching the entire left argue against it.
With a month away from election, going with the narrative may have been too early.
With a week out, the damage can be done election held and outcome changed. A month out and voters have a chance to rationalize and examine motive.
Remember the Bush 43’s drunken driving story in 2000? That was only five days out and almost cost him the election, save for a few hundred souls in Florida.
However, what if Al Gore won in 2000? Would that have been so bad? We may never have had an Obama presidency.
Take the bitch to court and make her show proof......Shame on her!
RE: IN THE CURRENT YEAR: The same people saying “Ray More was dating (18 Year Old) teenagers”, and think it’s a terrible thing support the right of 18 year olds to make hard-core porno.
Here In New York, the age of consent is 17.
Comedian Jerry Seinfeld was 38 when he dated then, 17 year old ( and now fashion designer ) Soshana Lonstein. I don’t remember any huge outrage over that.
Not even Glo is suing, but wants a ‘Senate hearing’... Springer TV staring Glo.. no one needs to pay for the production as every media outlet will cover the staged show.
We've completely gone away from "innocent until proven guilty". Moore is expected to prove he is innocent.
This is bad.
I think the original plan was to break this a week before the election.
Steve Bannon reported in Breitbart that the Washington Post WAS ABOUT to break it.
Thus with inside intel he was able to force their hand and derail the timeline of their plan.
If the yearbook signature ink don’t match and fit
You must acquit!
I don’t think they expected a fight.
Why is this an all-or-nothing dichotomy? If Moore IS proven to have done what he is accused of, does it amount to any criminal charge, like rape? This is so overblown it’s ridiculous.
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