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1 posted on 11/14/2017 2:31:39 PM PST by nickcarraway
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There are alternate organic standards. People who are up and this stuff (I am not one of them) know what they want to look for. Could you imagine observant Jews trusting a government standards committee to certify kosher foods?


2 posted on 11/14/2017 2:38:03 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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If chemicals contain the Element Carbon, by definition, it’s ORGANIC!


3 posted on 11/14/2017 2:39:46 PM PST by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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Hydroponic is about as ‘organic’ as you can get.

I have eaten hydroponic tomatoes and they are excellent!.................


4 posted on 11/14/2017 2:40:33 PM PST by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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Id be more impressed with the usda if they hadn’t approved that high fructose corn syrup crap. Just follow the money.


5 posted on 11/14/2017 2:41:55 PM PST by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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They just don't want the competition.

6 posted on 11/14/2017 2:47:58 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Kill: NFL, Hollywood, NBA, BLM, CAIR, Antifa, SPLC, CNN, ESPN, NPR, TWITTER, FACEBOOK)
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Seems like the idea behind “organic” is no chemical-based, or factory- produced fertilizers. And it also seems to me that all of the liquids in a hydroponic system would be just that—out of a factory. Although I suppose a guy could run water through a big tank of cow manure or rotted fish and get the hydroponics without the factory’s involvement.

The thing it seems none of the organic earth people seem to understand though is that the plant doesn’t really care if it gets its nitrogen from a dead fish or from out of a plastic bag produced by Phillips Petroleum. Nitrogen is nitrogen.


7 posted on 11/14/2017 2:52:07 PM PST by Dr. Zzyzx
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Whats wrong with Hydroponic growing ...??

All the pot growers use it.......


9 posted on 11/14/2017 2:55:43 PM PST by njslim
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“You come into it and say, ‘Do I fit here?’ And we’ve clearly said you don’t. . ."

Okay, so to her, organic farming is not a method with principles, it's a club or a union, or maybe a cult. I thought it was about growing healthy food to benefit your paying customers by leaving out the garbage and the chemicals, while still coming up with good, ripe fruit and vegetables.

12 posted on 11/14/2017 3:12:18 PM PST by SamuraiScot
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As someone who’s wife owned and operated a hydroponics store: To a plant N is Nitrogen, P is Phosphorous, and K is Potassium. To a plant, it doesn’t care where it gets it from. Or any of the trace nutrients as well. Using raw nutrients are as organic as anything else.


19 posted on 11/14/2017 3:51:58 PM PST by Magnatron
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Well then, the hydroponic and aquaponic production industry should come up with their own, even better, classification and symbol. I’d purchase their products, and others most likely would, as well.


23 posted on 11/14/2017 4:08:24 PM PST by Kalamata
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I don’t see why the heck the government should be involved in determining what is or is not organic. Leave the government out of the process... Problem solved.


25 posted on 11/14/2017 4:23:47 PM PST by rottndog ('Live Free Or Die' Ain't just words on a bumber sticker...or a tagline.)
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Generally, more people in the Midwest favor the way that many of them have farmed in the past: by using properly prepared, safe compost and rotating crops, even in greenhouses. The weather is very suitable in the Midwest for that.

Many in the West lack natural rain and manure, so more of them tend to favor hydroponics.


27 posted on 11/14/2017 5:47:38 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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Not wearing my glasses. First read:

Organic Farmers Lose Battle Over Soulless Hydroponic Growing


30 posted on 11/14/2017 6:14:21 PM PST by Rebelbase (The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it.-- H.L. Mencken)
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“The National Organic Standards Board voted last Wednesday to reject proposals....”prohibiting”.... hydroponic and aquaponic production methods from being certified USDA organic.”

Sloppy copyright here...but, it is a double negative so...kinda an affirmative.

How about...””The National Organic Standards Board voted last Wednesday to reject proposals....”for”.... hydroponic and aquaponic production methods from being certified USDA organic.”

Just saying.


32 posted on 11/14/2017 7:09:15 PM PST by Puckster (70 weeks of Daniel)
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Dixon believes that the organic farmers who started the movement should have the final word on what constitutes organic.

No, stinking hippie, Organic Chemistry should.

Dude...it is the chemistry of life. A study of carbon-based molecules and compounds. So almost anything made from petroleum is, like, Organic....Man.

34 posted on 11/15/2017 5:33:24 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, RINOs...same thing)
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