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Welcome to 2030. I own nothing, have no privacy, and life has never been better
World Economic Forum ^ | 11/11/16 | Ida Auken

Posted on 11/12/2017 9:54:03 AM PST by Baynative

Welcome to the year 2030. Welcome to my city - or should I say, "our city". I don't own anything. I don't own a car. I don't own a house. I don't own any appliances or any clothes.

It might seem odd to you, but it makes perfect sense for us in this city. Everything you considered a product, has now become a service. We have access to transportation, accommodation, food and all the things we need in our daily lives. One by one all these things became free, so it ended up not making sense for us to own much.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2030; agenda2021; agenda2030; agenda21; agenda30; hungergames; logansrun; socialism; utopia
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To: Baynative

“It might seem odd to you, but it makes perfect sense for us in this city.”

Enjoy your slavery, idiot.


41 posted on 11/12/2017 10:24:01 AM PST by WKUHilltopper (WKU 2016 Boca Raton Bowl Champions)
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To: Baynative

And anyone who disagrees is disposed of in the crematoriums.


42 posted on 11/12/2017 10:26:49 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I don't want better government; I want much less of it.)
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To: Baynative
“In one part she says when she feels like cooking everything including utensils just comes to the door. How can a mature person even dream such a fantasy?”

The ingredients for any recipe you like already come to your door at the click of a mouse. Why couldn't tools come too?

The warehouses that ship these foods are already 50-70% automated. Why couldn't they be nearly 100%?

Self driving trucks and delivery drones are getting very successful in the testing stages.

Now imagine in the future drones using near infinite energy would deliver what you want at any moment. Then at the click off a button the used items and trash would be picked up by a drone. Then by AI machines properly cleaned, recycled. Food scraps automatically composted and eventually grown into new food via AI farmers. Without any human labor required.

As an engineer who has seen the latest tech in development, I dont consider any of this a stretch. I consider this a certainty unless, of course, humanity kills itself first

43 posted on 11/12/2017 10:29:10 AM PST by varyouga
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To: varyouga

There are live men left, even in 2030. This hellish nightmare won’t be your utopian fantasy.

It will be a field of predation.


44 posted on 11/12/2017 10:29:14 AM PST by Hugh the Scot ("The days of being a keyboard commando are over. It's time to get some bloody knuckles." -Drew68)
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To: Baynative
Her dream world would not work even in a completely homogeneous society, but since Denmark has been invaded by hordes of Muslims at this point this is simply an extremely sad escapist fantasy. I feel very sorry for her. All of Western Europe has fallen gone down this path of liberal insanity and young and old will now face the consequences.

http://barenakedislam.com/2015/06/15/denmark-muslim-immigration-means-danes-can-no-longer-sit-on-their-own-balcony-and-eat-a-ham-sandwich/

MUSLIM immigrant gangs in Denmark are stronger than ever and hatred for the native Danish population continues to escalate.


45 posted on 11/12/2017 10:29:18 AM PST by fireman15
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To: WKUHilltopper

Harrison Bergeron by Kurt Vonnegut http://www.tnellen.com/cybereng/harrison.html


46 posted on 11/12/2017 10:29:28 AM PST by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything)
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To: Baynative

Sounds like we’re going to evolve into ants or bees.


47 posted on 11/12/2017 10:30:14 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Baynative

“... As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man-—

There are only four things certain since Social Progress began:-—

That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her mire,

And the burnt Fool’s bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;

And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins

When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,

As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,

The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!”


48 posted on 11/12/2017 10:31:17 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Hugh the Scot

I dont agree with everything the author says

But there will come a time where anything material is free and infinite. With nothing worth fighting anybody over


49 posted on 11/12/2017 10:34:16 AM PST by varyouga
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To: Baynative

This where the arrogant technologists are headed and the end of the road of it is the dual sub-human and human society left at the end point in time that the main character in the time machine reaches.

The humans have perfect health, all the food and shelter they need, as well as no need to do any work at all. They are well cared for (until they reach an early rigged demise) by a subhuman race that began as the caretakers of the fully automated systems that did everything and took care of everything. As the elite, while the humans were fully taken care of, the elite in charge became cannibals and eventually sub-human. They remained in subterranean habitats, away from the well cared for humans, most of the time. Until that is they wanted more “meat” and then sounded alarms, with which humans had been indoctrinated to throw themselves into well constructed pits, where they were captured.


50 posted on 11/12/2017 10:37:51 AM PST by Wuli
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To: fireman15

Well, a pretty face
don’t mean a pretty heart.
I learned that right,
buddy, from the very start.


51 posted on 11/12/2017 10:38:00 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Nifster
That isn’t what was said

I know you are just being funny. This is another escapist fantasy from a Danish politician. There is a parallel between John Lennon's song and this persons fantasy. If this is what the Danes wanted they would have had to keep the violent filth of the world from immigrating there.

52 posted on 11/12/2017 10:38:16 AM PST by fireman15
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To: Baynative

“I’d like a steak, kitchen computer.”

“One soybean steak substitute coming up, human unit!”


53 posted on 11/12/2017 10:38:40 AM PST by Larry Lucido (Take Covfefe Ree Zig!)
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To: varyouga

Still; that missing link of who pays the bill.


54 posted on 11/12/2017 10:39:23 AM PST by Baynative ( "If you don't have a seat at the table, you're on the menu.")
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To: Baynative
One by one all these things became free

That one statement alone qualifies this as an infantile pipe dream.

55 posted on 11/12/2017 10:40:30 AM PST by IronJack
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To: Baynative

“Still; that missing link of who pays the bill.”

Bill for what?

Everything from raw materials to recycling will be done by machines who are repaired and built by other machines.


56 posted on 11/12/2017 10:41:01 AM PST by varyouga
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To: Lou L
" Socialism and its offshoots — communism, liberalism — is one of the greatest inventions of violations of human nature that humanity has ever conceived. It denies individuality. It denies the very real fact that we’re all different, that we all have different ambitions, different intelligence abilities, different degrees of ambition. It seeks to punish achievement. The one thing about socialism, Rebecca, is it never seeks to equalize by elevating those at the bottom.

Socialism always attempts to equalize by penalizing the achievers and lowering them so that nobody is better than anybody else. But it’s not presented that way. That’s what you end up with. It’s presented as love, peace, happiness, contentment, no worries. Everybody’s gonna take care of it for you. The supposed selling point of socialism is that by controlling the economy, the government can make sure that there’s no income inequality. The government can make sure that there’s no poverty.

The government can make sure there’s no racism. The government can make sure that there’s no bigotry. The government can make sure there’s no homophobia. The government can make sure that there is no prejudice of any kind. But what has happened, under every socialist regime and communist regime is that the people in power use it to enrich themselves and their friends and family." - Rush Limbaugh 2016

57 posted on 11/12/2017 10:42:13 AM PST by Baynative ( "If you don't have a seat at the table, you're on the menu.")
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To: Baynative

58 posted on 11/12/2017 10:43:07 AM PST by ReaganGeneration2
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To: Baynative

Sounds like a liberal hell.


59 posted on 11/12/2017 10:43:40 AM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation ("You can't fix America without pissing off the people who broke it".....Bill Mitchell)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

Sounds like The Matrix.


60 posted on 11/12/2017 10:46:38 AM PST by Gulf War One
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