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Trump and Putin 'agree to defeat IS in Syria'
BBC News ^ | 11/11/2017 | BBC

Posted on 11/11/2017 2:06:54 AM PST by Nextrush

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To: grania
I recognize that you're passionate about your religious issues.

I'm passionate about informing people about Putin's long-range plan to bring back the evil empire, in one form or another. Only this time it would include power positions in the strategic oil/gas-wealthy Middle East. The Russians are NOT our friends, despite what the disingenuous lowlife Putinistas claim.

21 posted on 11/11/2017 5:22:43 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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To: ETL
Why shouldn't Putin be in Syria? He's always been Assad's ally, and was invited there to help defend the nations. We're the ones who waged war there. How many Syrians, Iranians, or Russian Orthodox have attacked the US? What is our gripe, when you come right down to it?

It's not easy to accept that in many ways it's the US which is the Evil Empire.

22 posted on 11/11/2017 5:27:16 AM PST by grania (Deplorable and Proud of It!)
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To: grania
How many Syrians, Iranians, or Russian Orthodox have attacked the US?

You seriously do not know that Russia's pawn Iran is the world's leading sponsor of state terrorism? That they helped support the war effort against us in Iraq?

23 posted on 11/11/2017 5:30:52 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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To: Nextrush

> have agreed to defeat the so-called Islamic State (IS)

A complete reversal of Obama’s policy.


24 posted on 11/11/2017 5:31:40 AM PST by ArcadeQuarters ("Immigration Reform" is ballot stuffing)
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To: grania
It's impossible to regard Russia reaffirming its roots in the Church as a negative.

Worth repeating...a vibrant Orthodox church in Russia stands as a bulwark against the reintroduction of communism there. It also stands as a bulwark against the creep of homo-fascist Western European socialism.

25 posted on 11/11/2017 5:35:11 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: grania
How many Syrians, Iranians, or Russian Orthodox have attacked the US?

And the deal with the fake Russian Orthodox Church, which I very clearly showed is not much more than a front as the "largest member of the (communist) World Council of Churches", is that their true agenda is to undermine legit religion, much in the way that "reverend" Jeremiah Wright's phony "Liberation Theology" does. Again, Wright's 'church' is also a member of the communist WCC.

The Russian Orthodox Church is very strict, making it a crime in some cases to practice religion outside of it. It is a Moscow-controlled, KGB/FSB-type operation.

26 posted on 11/11/2017 5:41:13 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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To: mac_truck
Worth repeating...a vibrant Orthodox church in Russia stands as a bulwark against the reintroduction of communism there.

This is worth repeating too, mac_truck, FR's Putin Fan Club 2nd in command...

"The two leaders met on 12 February in Havana, Cuba.

The Russian Orthodox Church is the largest member church in the World Council of Churches (WCC)..."

https://www.oikoumene.org/en/press-centre/news/wcc-welcomes-meeting-of-pope-francis-and-patriarch-kirill

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Got that? The Russian Orthodox Church is the largest member of the (far left) World Council of Churches!

https://www.oikoumene.org/en/member-churches/russian-orthodox-church
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From David Horowitz's FrontPageMag.com/DiscoverTheNetworks.org:
Profile: WORLD COUNCIL OF CHURCHES (WCC)


27 posted on 11/11/2017 5:55:47 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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To: ETL

What better place to have a meeting of world Christian leaders than in a communist country like Cuba.

Is there something not kosher about that?


28 posted on 11/11/2017 6:10:47 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: BinaryBoy
Re: > have agreed to defeat the so-called Islamic State (IS)

A complete reversal of Obama’s policy.

I am convinced Obama was intentionally weak going after ISIS with the specific goal of affording Putin the opportunity to move in and ultimately seize control of the Middle East. Obama, and damn near everyone around him since childhood, was a diehard supporter of the Soviet Union. And since KGB Putin's aim is to basically restore that evil empire, it makes all the sense in the world that Obama and his ilk would, at least in secret, are rooting for a major Russian comeback. This despite all their smoke 'n' mirror huffing and puffing BS. It is far more important to pay attention to what he actually DOES rather than what he SAYS.

The Russians, to this day, continue to support and prop up every US-hostile communist regime on the planet.

How Russia arms America's southern neighbors

Ioan Grillo
May 9, 2014

RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil -- Russia's push into Ukraine has put many on edge. But less known is that Russia is also strengthening its military links south of the Rio Grande and re-establishing itself as a power in the region.

Vladimir Putin has been strengthening military links here, and Russia is now the largest arms dealer to governments in Latin America, surpassing the United States.

Russia has even floated the possibility of building new military bases in Cuba, Venezuela and Nicaragua, and putting its warships permanently in the Caribbean.

In the midst of the Ukraine crisis, Russia's top diplomat Sergei Lavrov recently visited Cuba, Peru, Chile, and Nicaragua, where he announced that Russia would also pour money into the new Central American canal project. ..."

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/americas/140508/russian-arms-military-trade-latin-america
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Russia Boosts Arms, Training for Leftist Latin Militaries

Moscow defense minister inks deals with Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua for joint exercises

BY: Bill Gertz
February 20, 2015

Russia agreed to provide military training for three leftist regimes in Latin America and increase military visits and exercises following a visit last week to the region by Moscow's Defense Minister Sergei Shoygu, Pentagon officials said.

Shoygu met with defense and military leaders in Cuba, Venezuela, and Nicaragua and signed several agreements on warship visits and military training during the visit, which ran from Feb. 11 to 14. It is not clear whether any new arms deals were completed during the visit.

Defense officials said the Russian leader is seeking bases in the region for strategic bomber flights that Shoygu recently promised would include flights over the Gulf of Mexico and Caribbean.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/russia-boosts-arms-training-for-leftist-latin-militaries/

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Russia and North Korea declare 2015 a ‘year of friendship’

“The biggest cause for concern is the growing military alliance between Russia and North Korea, with the two regimes recently announcing plans to conduct a series of joint army, navy and air force exercises this year.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/11463265/Russia-and-North-Korea-declare-2015-a-year-of-friendship.html

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Russia steps up North Korea support to constrain US

May 17, 2017

“Despite efforts by the United Nations to impose isolating sanctions on North Korea in response to the country’s continued development of nuclear weapons and intercontinental ballistic missiles, trade between Russia and North Korea soared more than 85 percent in the first four months of the year.”

http://www.dw.com/en/russia-steps-up-north-korea-support-to-constrain-us/a-38867861

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Putin very much wants a 'unified Korea' (under communist NK rule)

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Sept 5, 2017

North Korea nuclear crisis: Putin calls sanctions useless

Russian President Vladimir Putin has said pursuing further sanctions against North Korea is “useless”, saying “they’d rather eat grass than give up their nuclear programme”.

The US said on Monday it would table a new UN resolution on tougher sanctions in the wake of the latest test of a nuclear bomb by the North on Sunday.

Mr Putin also said that the ramping up of “military hysteria” could lead to global catastrophe.

He said diplomacy was the only answer.

China, the North’s main ally, has also called for a return to negotiations. ...”

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-41158281

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From the Sino-Russian Joint Statement of April 23, 1997:
"The two sides [China and Russia] shall, in the spirit of partnership, strive to promote the multipolarization of the world and the establishment of a new international order."

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/HI29Ag01.html
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"Joint war games are a logical outcome of the Sino-Russian Friendship and Cooperation Treaty signed in 2001, and reflect the shared worldview and growing economic ties between the two Eastern Hemisphere giants."

http://www.heritage.org/research/commentary/2005/09/war-games-russia-china-grow-alliance

29 posted on 11/11/2017 6:11:53 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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To: BinaryBoy
...and of course the increasingly dangerous Iranians...

Aug 2015

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30 posted on 11/11/2017 6:13:03 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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To: mac_truck
What better place to have a meeting of world Christian leaders than in a communist country like Cuba. Is there something not kosher about that?

You're honestly trying to make me believe that you missed the part about the ROC being the "largest member of the [COMMUNIST] World Council of Churches", or any of the other stuff I pointed out? You have been a diehard Putin defender/apologist on this site for many years. And if it were up to me, you and your fellow Putinistas would have been booted off a long time ago. You creeps are truly despicable.

31 posted on 11/11/2017 6:19:12 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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To: ETL

Again, I’ll respectfully disagree. With my Russian Orthodox background as a child and with the mess the world is in today, I’m not concerned.


32 posted on 11/11/2017 6:35:05 AM PST by grania (Deplorable and Proud of It!)
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To: ETL

Actually it was Soros funded NGOs partnered with neocons like John McCain trying to incite “ Moscow spring” during the last Russian election

Makes you tnink. huh? ( obviously not)


33 posted on 11/11/2017 6:47:17 AM PST by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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To: ETL

I thought those new laws were aimed at the many evangelists sent to Russia from the US and other churches in Western countries. In other words outsider efforts to weaken the official Russian Church - The Russian Orthodox Church. I doubt the laws affect the Russian church’s evangelism ministries. I also remember the Russian Orthodox Church is the only Church who actively supported the Syrian churches who were/are persecuted. The lack of support by US churches and the churches of the West is a sad commentary.


34 posted on 11/11/2017 6:49:56 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: silverleaf
Actually it was Soros funded NGOs partnered with neocons like John McCain trying to incite “Moscow spring” during the last Russian election

From the campaign trail, 2008...

Obama Pledges Cuts in Missile Defense, Space, and Nuclear Weapons Programs

February 29, 2008 :: News
MissileThreat.com

A video has surfaced of Presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama talking on his plans for strategic issues such as nuclear weapons and missile defense.

The full text from the video, as released, reads as follows:

Thanks so much for the Caucus4Priorities, for the great work you've been doing. As president, I will end misguided defense policies and stand with Caucus4Priorities in fighting special interests in Washington.

First, I'll stop spending $9 billion a month in Iraq. I'm the only major candidate who opposed this war from the beginning. And as president I will end it.[i.e. not win it]

Second, I will cut tens of billions of dollars in wasteful spending.

I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems.

I will not weaponize space.

I will slow our development of future combat systems.

And I will institute an independent "Defense Priorities Board" to ensure that the Quadrennial Defense Review is not used to justify unnecessary spending.

Third, I will set a goal of a world without nuclear weapons. To seek that goal, I will not develop new nuclear weapons; I will seek a global ban on the production of fissile material; and I will negotiate with Russia to take our ICBMs off hair-trigger alert, and to achieve deep cuts in our nuclear arsenals.

You know where I stand. I've fought for open, ethical and accountable government my entire public life. I don't switch positions or make promises that can't be kept. I don't posture on defense policy and I don't take money from federal lobbyists for powerful defense contractors. As president, my sole priority for defense spending will be protecting the American people. Thanks so much.

Article: Obama Pledges Cuts in Missile Defense, Space, and Nuclear Weapons Programs:

http://web.archive.org/web/20090412030633/http://missilethreat.com/archives/id.7086/detail.asp

"MissileThreat.com is a project of The Claremont Institute devoted to understanding and promoting the requirements for the strategic defense of the United States."
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From Investor's Business Daily, Jan 2012:

Obama To Betray Missile Defense Secrets To Moscow

Investor's Business Daily ^ | January 9, 2012 | IBD staff

Appeasement: From ObamaCare to recess appointments, honoring the Constitution has not been an administration hallmark. But when it comes to betraying secrets to mollify the Russians, it becomes a document the president hides behind.

It was bad enough that the 2012 defense authorization bill signed by President Obama set America on a downward spiral of military mediocrity.

He also issued a signing statement, something he once opposed, saying that language in the bill aimed at protecting top-secret technical data on the U.S. Standard Missile-3 - linchpin of our missile defense - might impinge on his constitutional foreign-policy authority.

Section 1227 of the defense law prohibits spending any funds that would be used to give Russian officials access to sensitive missile-defense technology as part of a cooperation agreement without first sending Congress a report identifying the specific secrets, how they'd be used and steps to protect the data from compromise.

The president is required to certify that any technology shared will not be passed on to third parties such as China, North Korea or Iran, that the Russians will not use transferred secrets to develop countermeasures and that the Russians are reciprocating in sharing missile-defense technology. ..."

"In his signing statement, Obama said he would treat these legal restrictions as 'non-binding' and that 'my administration will also interpret and implement section 1244 (sic) in a manner that does not interfere with the president's constitutional authority to conduct foreign affairs and avoids the undue disclosure of sensitive diplomatic communications.'

Betraying our secrets is easy for a president who betrayed allies Poland and the Czech Republic to placate Moscow.

Poland was to host ground-based interceptors such as those we've deployed in California and Alaska, with missile-tracking radar deployed in the Czech Republic.

Obama pulled the plug when Moscow objected. Never mind, he said, we have a better approach: a four-phase plan that calls for using three versions of the Navy's Standard SM-3 interceptor missile that forms the backbone of its Aegis missile-defense system.

The fourth phase consists of a missile still on the drawing board scheduled for deployment by 2020, a version of the SM-3 called the Block IIB. It would intercept hostile missiles in the "early intercept" phase before an enemy missile could release its warheads and decoys. The Russians want the SM-3's secrets, and Obama appears to be willing to turn them over.

The president wants to save the New Start Treaty, which the Russians have threatened to abandon if we try to fully implement President Reagan's dream of defeating a nuclear missile attack.

Russia has unilaterally asserted that any qualitative or quantitative improvement in U.S. missile defenses would be grounds for withdrawal from the treaty.

Read More At Investor's Business Daily:
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/010912-597158-obama-gives-russia-missile-defense-secrets.htm#ixzz3jXmMbVwY
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March 2012...

"Obama was talking with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev when neither of them realized that their conversation was being picked up by microphones. Here is what they said:

Obama: "On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this, this can be solved, but it's important for him to give me space."

Medvedev: "Yeah, I understand. I understand your message about space. Space for you ..."

Obama: "This is my last election. After my election, I have more flexibility."

Medvedev: "I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir."

"This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility." That statement tells us much about the president's mindset.

The specific mention of missile defense is worrisome enough. Mr. Obama has retreated from the missile defense plan that was negotiated with European allies during the George W. Bush administration.

Apparently, he is signaling Moscow that he intends to retreat further. The clear implication from the president's comments is that he cannot tell the American people before the election what he plans to do after the election.

In addition, there is the phrase "on all these issues," implying more is at stake than just missile defense."

Article: Obama plans double cross on missile defense
When it comes to keeping America safe, we shouldn't be too flexible:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/mar/29/obama-plans-double-cross-on-missile-defense/print/
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35 posted on 11/11/2017 6:51:15 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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To: ETL

OK
Post after post after post of word walls is a sure fire way to win hearts and minds

Nope


36 posted on 11/11/2017 6:57:47 AM PST by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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To: ETL

“...fake Russian Orthodox Church...”
I have known several Russian Orthodox people, other Orthodox people too, over the years and there was noting fake about them. Probably moreso than many others, they were true to their Christian beliefs and tried their best to live a Christ-like life - really good people.


37 posted on 11/11/2017 7:05:46 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: WashingtonFire
Trump and Putin just agreed an alliance which is explicitly anti-Marxist. For the first time in history, the two great powers for he age shall unite to defeat the force of devilry known as Marxism

AMEN

and to stop the war on Christianity

We;re in the midst of another age-old war - the godless against the believers, The Wheat is being separated from the chaff

38 posted on 11/11/2017 7:09:50 AM PST by maine-iac7 ( Christian is as Christian does mt-h)
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To: elpadre
I have known several Russian Orthodox people, other Orthodox people too, over the years and there was noting fake about them.

I wasn't referring to the many, I'm sure fine members of the church, but rather the true agenda of the people at the top. Again, in case you missed it, the ROC is the 'largest member' of the (communist) "World Council Of Churches"!

It's the same thing as with Obama and Wright's (communist) agenda-driven 'church', where thousands are suckered into actually believing these churches and pastors legit. Communist only USE religion as a means of advancing their goals. They've been infiltrating legit religious groups, or concocting their own phony-baloney religious groups, for decades. Nothing new here.

39 posted on 11/11/2017 7:16:22 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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To: silverleaf
Post after post after post of word walls is a sure fire way to win hearts and minds

In other words, put your hands over your eyes and once again ignore or dismiss the relevant facts of the situation. Main points were clear as day without having to read every word or actually go to the links.

40 posted on 11/11/2017 7:26:37 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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