Gunshop owner who sold to Devin Kelley speaks out

Nolly Scoop ^ | Nov. 7, 2017 | Channing Appleton

[bgill]

Kelley first bought a Glock 9mm from Specialty Sports in December 2014 - the same year he got a bad conduct discharge from the Air Force, which should have precluded him from buying a gun. 'You never want to sell something to someone that will commit any form of crime, let alone a mass murder like this,' Lepp told KENS5. He says he wants to know what happened to cause the system to fail... A TIMELINE OF TEXAS CHURCH SHOOTER'S HISTORY OF VIOLENCE

[bgill]

There is a bio timeline at the link.

"For two months in 2009, 18-year-old Kelley dates 13-year-old Brittany Adcock. 'At the time I didn't think much into it being so young but now I realize that there's something off about someone who is 18 with someone who is 13,' Kelley's ex told NBC News. The now 22-year-old says after she broke up with him, Kelley desperately tried to get her back by any means necessary - in one case offering to pay her to live with him and his wife as a topless maid."

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks bgill.

• Democrats Killed Bill That Would Have Stopped Texas Church Shooter From Buying Gun

[Terry Mross]

Where was this girl’s parents? I ask that as I remember a woman I knew who allowed her 14 year old daughter date a 19 year old thug. By the grace of God the girl came to her senses after several beatings and a few arrests.

[Boogieman]

“December 2014”

Obama’s fault.

[DungeonMaster]

Bring back insane asylums.

[ETL]

Texas Gunman Broke Skull of Infant Stepson in 2012 Assault

New York Times ^ | NOV. 6, 2017 | DAVE PHILIPPS and RICHARD A. OPPEL Jr.

“He assaulted his stepson severely enough that he fractured his skull, and he also assaulted his wife,” said Don Christensen, a retired colonel who was the chief prosecutor for the Air Force.

“He pled to intentionally doing it.”

...He was sentenced in November of that year to 12 months’ confinement and reduction to the lowest possible rank.

After his confinement, he was discharged from the military with a bad conduct discharge.

..." The case marked a long downward slide that included divorce...

After Mr. Kelley was discharged from the Air Force in 2014, he remarried in Texas, to Danielle Lee Shields, in April of that year, according to state records.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...

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Texas shooter had threatened churchgoing mother-in-law

New York Post ^ | November 6, 2017 | Max Jaeger

The maniac who killed 26 people inside a Texas church Sunday threatened his parishioner mother-in-law, officials revealed Monday.

Devin Patrick Kelley "made threatening text messages to his mother-in-law who went to the church” said Texas Department of Public Safety regional director Freeman Martin.

The woman, who was not named, attends the church but was not there during the massacre Sunday, authorities said. Martin would not say whether the woman's membership with the church motivated Kelley.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...

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Texas shooter went to church festival days before massacre

By Ruth Brown
Nov 7, 2017

The Texas church shooter attended a ​festival at the chapel just days before he opened fire on congregants, according to a report.

Five days before his ​bloody ​massacre, Devin Patrick Kelley brought his kids to the First Baptist Church of Sutherland Springs' fall festival - a Halloween event with games, a bouncy house and a petting zoo, the Houston Chronicle reports.

The troubled Airman was estranged from his wife and had been ​involved in a feud with his mother-in-law - a member of the congregation - so other church members saw his presence as the event as a positive step.

"They thought, '​O​h this is good. This is progress,'" Tambria Read, a friend of Kelley’s mother-in-law told the paper.

His mother-in-law, Michelle Shields, was particularly pleased to see her son-in-law at the church event with her grandkids, Read told the Chronicle.

Kelley had been sending her threatening texts before the shooting, according to law enforcement officials — but she wasn’t inside when he attacked.

http://nypost.com/2017/11/07/texas-shooter-went-to-church-festival-days-before-massacre/

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“Old school friends described Kelley, who lived in nearby New Braunfels, Texas, as a “creep” who made no secret of his anti-religious views.

Nina Rose Nava, who went to school with Kelley, said: “He was always talking about how people who believe in God were stupid and trying to preach his atheism.’...”--NY Times

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https://everipedia.org/wiki/danielle-lee-shields/

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Devin Kelley: Texas shooter killed his wife’s grandma in church massacre

Mythili Sampathkumar

Police have confirmed that Devin Kelley, the gunman who killed 26 and injured 20 in the Texas church mass shooting, also killed his grandmother-in-law in the church.

Lula Woicinski White, a 71-year-old member and volunteer at the First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, Texas, was Mr Kelley’s wife’s grandmother.

Mr Kelley’s in-laws and second wife Danielle were also members of the church, but none were present during the day of the shooting according to police. ...”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/devin-kelley-texas-shooting-grandma-wife-victims-kill-latest-news-updates-a8041091.html
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[Red Badger]

He says he wants to know what happened to cause the system to fail...

GOVERNMENT...........................

[x1stcav]

This is where I do most of my business and Jeff is a straight-forward guy. Everything I’ve done there over the last dozen years has been by the book.

[ETL]

Report: TX Gunman Escaped From Mental Health Facility In 2012

The Daily Caller ^ | 11/07/2017 | Amber Athey

Devin P. Kelley, the gunman who killed 26 people in a Texas church, reportedly escaped from a mental health facility in 2012.

According to Channel 2 Houston, Kelley was institutionalized while he was in the U.S. Air Force after being charged with assaulting his wife and baby stepson.

A 2012 police report shows that he escaped from the psychiatric hospital after making death threats against his superiors in the Air Force and trying to smuggle weapons onto the base where he was stationed.

Kelley escaped from Peak Behavioral Health Services, a facility in New Mexico, and was caught by police in El Paso, Texas on June 7, 2012.

A witness told police that Kelley “suffered from mental disorders and had plans to run to from Peak Behavioral Health Services” by purchasing a bus ticket to get out of the state.

Kelley “was a danger to himself and others as he had already been caught sneaking firearms onto Holloman Air Force base,” the witness stated. Kelley “was attempting to carry out death threats” on his superiors in the Air Force.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...

[bgill]

Interview with Uncle Dave Ivey. Spoke with the killer shortly before shooting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5q8IMuEXSoA

[ZULU]

Animal abusers most often turn into human abusers. They have a need to hurt the helpless.

[Pollster1]

We don’t need more gun laws; we need to enforce (or in some cases repeal) the gun laws we have. Those who are ineligible to buy guns and lie on the forms should be prosecuted and sent to prison. Those who are ineligible and obtain guns illegally should be prosecuted and sent to prison. Normal Americans should not have their individual, God-given right to keep and bear arms infringed in any way.

[ETL]

Interview with Uncle Dave Ivey. Spoke with the killer shortly before shooting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5q8IMuEXSoA

Thanks. Sounds interesting.

Interview with Uncle Dave Ivey. Spoke with the killer shortly before shooting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5q8IMuEXSoA

[bgill]

Dave lives in Reno, NV.

Killer’s maternal grandmother is in El Paso and Ruidoso and his parents lived there a few years ago so that’s the connection with the mental hospital escape.

[Vaquero]

The wife suggested I go into the gun sales/ service business due to it being a huge hobby of mine.

While hanging around gun shops a lot, I have seen some major dirt bags of every stripe hanging out (and consulting in hushed tones) while their girlfriends bought guns. Everyone knew what was going on. Yet she often time walked out with her new purchase.

I never wanted that type of responsibility

[ETL]

Interview with Uncle Dave Ivey. Spoke with the killer shortly before shooting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5q8IMuEXSoA

All,

This is a screen capture of the YouTube video. See above link for actual video.

Interview with Uncle Dave Ivey. Spoke with the killer shortly before shooting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5q8IMuEXSoA

[CodeToad]

Not to mention he does that as one of the largest private gun shops in the country.

[goldstategop]

I’d have sold to him too... like I’m gonna turn down a customer with no criminal record.

And the guy never shot any one at the time or even plotted mass murder in a church.

[x1stcav]

If you can’t find it there you might not need it.