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Kill the Bill
The Weekly Standard ^ | 6 Nov 17 | Matt Labash

Posted on 11/06/2017 7:22:24 PM PST by SkyPilot

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To: doosee
"I see the author was in a 12 percent tax rate. He must have had some huge writeoffs to get down to that by itemizing. No wonder his taxes may go up."

Yep. Some socialist animals are more equal than others. And what useful things do they produce? Not much.

It's good to see the effort to cut the corporate tax. Other nations have already done it, and balance of payments deficits have gone way up (re. cheating us with trade imbalances and taking manufacturing away from us). The Trump Administration may well bring more manufacturing to our own soil, if the peddlers of pork (Congress) doesn't get in the way too much. We'll see.


101 posted on 11/07/2017 5:47:50 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: SkyPilot
BRAVO !
102 posted on 11/07/2017 6:58:29 PM PST by nopardons
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To: af_vet_1981

You truly do NOT know what you are talking about and yet to continue to post the same erroneous claptrap.


103 posted on 11/07/2017 7:01:19 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Mariner
But these same posters would SCREAM BLUE MURDER, if they had to pay more taxes.

They are dogs in the manager and COMMIES/SOCIALISTS!

104 posted on 11/07/2017 7:02:49 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Mr Rogers
Please list all of the "LOSERS" from the Reagan across the board TAX CUT!

Then do the same for the JFK one.

Both of these TAX CUTS were REAL tax cuts...not crazy pickers of winner and losers, as this tax INCREASE is.

105 posted on 11/07/2017 7:08:03 PM PST by nopardons
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To: palmer

If the economy BOOMS ( which it would NOT ) if this POS is passed as is ( which it won’t ), then IF salaries rise ( which is NOT a rational expectation ), then automatically, all of you who don’t get hit by tax increases this time, WILL get hit later on. Not to mention the fact that these figures are not stable/written in stone, but instead, rise over the ensuing years. But then, you and many others here, don’t know that. Pity that....


106 posted on 11/07/2017 7:12:20 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

“Please list all of the “LOSERS” from the Reagan across the board TAX CUT!”

“Tax reform in 1986 had strong appeal to members of both parties. Republicans could point to the very high top tax rate of 50%. Democrats could point to a growing array of loopholes that mainly favored the rich. Top on that list was the ability to use losses from real estate and other “passive” income to offset salaries and other “active” income...

...Getting the ’86 bill through required trade-offs. The cuts in personal tax rates were partly paid for with increases in corporate taxes and several of the tax changes tended to discourage capital investment....”

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-24/9-lessons-reagan-tax-cuts


107 posted on 11/07/2017 7:16:36 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: Mr Rogers
Wherever you got that from, can't be trusted.

The markets BOOMED ( that's investment, diddums ) after this tax cut was passed!

Whomever wrote this was probably not alive, or was a child back then and NOT on any floor of any exchange.

The vast majority of loopholes were cut out completely, in the '86 Tax Cut; there were NO added loopholes!

Today, the ObamaCare 3% tax on both the buyer and seller of a property is still in effect; poverty level, lower middle class, middle class and on up...doesn't matter, they ALL get hit.

And this TAX INCREASE for many, gives people who pay NO Fed taxes at all and corporations HUGE benefits! Is THAT not "bad" ?

How about the doing away with deductions for very high medical costs, taxing the payer of alimony but NOT the one who gets it? And there are many more such "hidden" tax increases, that would harm all kinds of Middle Class people, in this horrid proposition!

You're such a good little COMMIE/SOCIALIST,that you are incapable of seeing the forest for the trees!

108 posted on 11/07/2017 7:32:59 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

The market already boomed in anticipation of passage, starting 12 months ago. I am probably getting “hit” this time since I deduct maybe 10k in state and local taxes. However this is not about me, and should not be. Many people are confusing the good of the country with the good of their own tax situation. That’s not how it should be. That’s the path to ruin for America.


109 posted on 11/07/2017 7:44:35 PM PST by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: palmer
Oh wake the bleeding hell up!

You and your ilk talk as though taking more money from people who are the ones who keep the economy and the markets humming is "good" for the nation; it isn't!

Nor will prices fall, should companies come back to this nation and make stuff here.

And those who just shout:"MOVE", have less understanding what's what, than those who post and tout incorrect charts!

What's "GOOD" for this nation is an across the board tax CUT for EVERYONE and NOT paying tax money, by the handfuls, to those who don't pay or pay a teensy amount of Fed taxes and to corporations!

CUTTING GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENTGS, STOPPING SPENDING ON USELESS AND OFTEN PATENTLY RIDICULOUS "STUDIES" ( making shrimp walk on a treadmill, etc. ), CUTTING OUT CRONY PAYOFFS, AND SO MUCH MORE, IS WHAT COULD EASILY OFFSET THE TAX CUTS !

Hurting many people ( and not just the "wealthy"!),hurts this nation and why you and others here don't understand that, is the problem!

110 posted on 11/07/2017 8:37:50 PM PST by nopardons
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To: lightman

It isn’t just deductions being lost - they took away our personal & dependent exemptions too. The bigger the family - the more you get hosed. I still have 5 kids at home.
Punish families with a lot of kids. Take away the adoption credit. Keep funding Planned Parenthood.
And do this while declaring this is the largest tax cut EVAH!


111 posted on 11/07/2017 8:51:22 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: SkyPilot

“The KIDS SUCK!! Act”


112 posted on 11/07/2017 8:52:41 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: nopardons

“You’re such a good little COMMIE/SOCIALIST,that you are incapable of seeing the forest for the trees! “

And you are not sane.


113 posted on 11/07/2017 8:52:55 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: Mariner

“I do think at a certain point you’ve made enough money”
(Barack Obama)


114 posted on 11/07/2017 9:03:09 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: Mr Rogers
Not only am I sane, I'm far more informed and knowledgeable about what's in this mess than you are, much more of a conservative, and understand what a TAX CUT plan should be.

You have posted some insane, specious, erroneous content posts to this thread.

Also, I bet that if you were to be hit be hit harder, than supposedly you imagine you shall be, you would be singing a different tune.

For me, yes, it's personal; however, I also see what a disaster this is for others who have a different situation than I do and have compassion for them; unlike you.

And I have nothing but disgust for those who wrote this POS and those who stupidly believe that it's either "good for the nation as a whole" or that it isn't so bad, and for those who gleefully chime in that the wealthy, those who live in high tax states, or whatever else tickles their fancies, is just great.

115 posted on 11/07/2017 9:13:02 PM PST by nopardons
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To: SkyPilot

My first thought when I saw the title of this thread was that it pertained to another maniacal outburst from Hillary pertaining to her debauched and promiscuously sleazy spouse, drunkenly expressed somewhere on her endless book tour.


       


I was wrong.

Carry on folks.

116 posted on 11/07/2017 9:29:36 PM PST by Songcraft
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To: Scotswife; nopardons; Mariner; lightman
It isn’t just deductions being lost - they took away our personal & dependent exemptions too. The bigger the family - the more you get hosed. I still have 5 kids at home. Punish families with a lot of kids. Take away the adoption credit. Keep funding Planned Parenthood. And do this while declaring this is the largest tax cut EVAH!.................“The KIDS SUCK!! Act”

Yes.

Or how about:

"The Too Bad You Have Medical Expenses Act"

"The Punish Families From Selected States Act"

"The Feds Tax Middle Class More So Facebook And Zuckerberg Pay Less Taxes Act"

117 posted on 11/08/2017 3:04:06 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: SkyPilot

I agree that NeverTrumpers act like lemmings.
118 posted on 11/08/2017 4:54:08 AM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Mariner

No, as a matter of fact, it isn't, because the leaked emails were the actual emails, rather than being an op-ed. But that's the logic of your concern. Another sidebar:
119 posted on 11/08/2017 5:00:39 AM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Scotswife

As more and more folks awaken to the sham of this bill, the GOP and POTUS had better withdraw it unless they want a Democrap sweep next year and for Trump to be a one-termer.’

Yes, it is that toxic.


120 posted on 11/08/2017 5:50:26 AM PST by lightman (ANTIFA is full of Bolshevik.)
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