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To: Mariner
The blue states you’re referring to subsidize the most of the red states with their income taxes paid vs benefits received.

I am not sure I believe that, though I hear the blue state governors claiming such. Show me the stats. California is sucking resources for illegals and bad policy, and I am not so sure that the income taxes paid by the silicon valley crowd are nearly enough to compensate for that. If you can produce numbers, I am willing to listen. But simply saying that CA or NY provide more tax revenue than other states does not answer the question. The answer includes how much the illegal alien burden is costing in medical, public housing, school tuition, and other welfare costs, as well as "high speed trains to nowhere". All of these things are federally subsidized, thus canceling out additional tax revenues.

166 posted on 11/02/2017 9:38:41 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: Magnum44

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/05/which-states-are-givers-and-which-are-takers/361668/

Again, the very large, very blue states are subsidizing the majority of the red states.

Read it and weep.


180 posted on 11/02/2017 9:51:39 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Magnum44
I am not sure I believe that, though I hear the blue state governors claiming such.

You can find dozens of sites, I'll not a couple below. California is actually about break even, but other blue states are not. First link has a pretty good interactive map.

https://people.howstuffworks.com/which-states-give-the-most-the-federal-government-which-get-the-most.htm

https://www.cheatsheet.com/culture/states-dependent-on-federal-government.html/?a=viewall

https://taxfoundation.org/states-rely-most-federal-aid/

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/letters/ct-how-illinois-taxpayers-federal-funds-givers-takers-bill-foster-020170328-story.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_taxation_and_spending_by_state

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_tax_revenue_by_state

http://www.businessinsider.com/red-states-more-dependent-on-federal-government-2015-7

270 posted on 11/02/2017 11:41:52 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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To: Magnum44

ALL such comparisons I’ve seen ignore the tax benefits the states receive.
For one instance the SALT deductions for businesses and individuals- which go to the states that supposedly “pay more”.

Hmmm... maybe the solution to the SALT tax problem with this bill is to remove the deduction from businesses?
Would be good policy encouraging businesses to move/expand into low tax states.
Best of all, of course, is that would not show up on people’s individual taxes.


297 posted on 11/02/2017 12:30:27 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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