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Sources: Podesta Group, Mercury Are Companies ‘A’ and ‘B’ in Indictment
NBC News ^ | October 30, 2017 | by JULIA AINSLEY, TOM WINTER and CAROL E. LEE

Posted on 10/30/2017 12:46:38 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

The lobbying firms the Podesta Group and Mercury Public Affairs are the unnamed companies in the grand jury indictment of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and his deputy, Rick Gates, according to three sources with knowledge of the investigation.

The indictment, unsealed Monday, refers to "Company A" and "Company B" as the firms Manafort and Gates solicited in 2012 to lobby on behalf of the Ukranian government. Company A is Mercury Public Affairs and Company B is the Podesta Group, the sources said.

The revelation of the companies’ identities points to more details about the players involved in the high-stakes venture run by Manafort and Gates to push the interest of a pro-Russia Ukranian political party inside the United States. It also provides a glimpse into the material special prosecutor Robert Mueller has corroborated on both companies and the potential legal repercussions both groups could face.

According to the indictment, the lobbying firms were paid $2 million from offshore accounts controlled by Manafort.

Their work included lobbying "multiple members of Congress and their staffs about Ukraine sanctions, the validity of Ukraine elections" that the reasons for imprisoning Yulia Tymoshenko, the political rival of Russian-backed Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych.

The indictment also revealed that Gates told Company A, now known to be Mercury, in February 2012 that it would be "representing the Government of Ukraine in [Washington] D.C."

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 201202; companya; companyb; grandjury; manafort; mercury; mercurypublicaffairs; mpa; mueller; muellerinvestigation; podesta; podestagroup; rickgates; russia; tonypodesta; trump; trumprussia; tymoshenko; ukraine; vinweber
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Did Podesta, et al. report the income?

Knowing they were acting for a foreign government, did Podesta et.al so register?


61 posted on 10/30/2017 2:42:28 PM PDT by Strac6 ("Mrs. Strac, Pilatus, and Sig Sauer: All the fun things in my life are Swiss!")
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To: Regulator
But why go to the trouble of setting up such corporations if you aren’t going to use them to cover you?

I don't know the criminal mind, and those who avoid legal taxation are criminals in our code.

I can tell you with certainty that LEGAL reasons to set up offshore entities often fall into these main categories:

1. Asset protection - doctors and others who are concerned by legal claims set up these entities in order to discourage lawsuits. In many countries, anyone bringing a lawsuit would be required to hire counsel in that country, use their court system, post a very large bond, sometimes pay the legal costs of all parties if they lose the suit, and have only a charging order if successful.

2. Privacy - If you hold assets or conduct business outside the country, many jurisdictions do not have a public registry to show who owns a company. Only the country knows this information. Most attorneys that take these kinds of legal cases on a contingency fee basis, will check to see what assets are owned first. If they find no info that indicates there is a pile of money, or if they determine that bringing a case in a foreign court will not be worth it (see #1), they will pass.

3. Estate Planning - transfer of assets privately

4. Access to investment relationships that turn down Americans because of FATCA - having your assets in a foreign LLC, for instance, will put a different "legal face" on the money and doors will be open that are not ordinarily open to Americans.

In every one of these cases, there are IRS forms to fill out when you establish the entity and when you fund the entity and when you distribute money from the entity.

I do not know the details about Manafort, but the little we know makes it sound like he was involved in tax evasion (illegal) to avoid paying legal taxes and did not report his holdings of these companies.

62 posted on 10/30/2017 2:43:13 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Hmm

https://www.cfr.org/experts/vin-weber


63 posted on 10/30/2017 2:44:30 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: MWestMom

:)


64 posted on 10/30/2017 2:45:29 PM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: JoSixChip

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>> “That would explain the timing and why mueller hired only clinton supporters. NOT! “ <<

You’re ignoring the fact that Mueller is himself one of the major conspirators.
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65 posted on 10/30/2017 2:45:55 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Strac6
Knowing they were acting for a foreign government, did Podesta et.al so register?

After that came out in the media last year, the Feds allowed the Podesta Group to register "retroactively" without penalty or anything.

66 posted on 10/30/2017 2:45:57 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: editor-surveyor

Lolol

It was LS..who claims everyone here but me knows mueller is in cahoots with trump in a secret alliance


67 posted on 10/30/2017 2:47:17 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

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Profoundly ridiculous, is it not!
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68 posted on 10/30/2017 2:50:00 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: wtd
Quidam is back!!!

For all you old timer Freepers, way back when Bill Clinton was being investigated by Ken Starr, a poster named 'quidam' used to post this cryptic crap about how we all needed to be patient, that it would all eventually come out and Clinton would be indicted.

I'd love for this stuff wtd posted to be true, but for now, it's quidam nonsense.

69 posted on 10/30/2017 2:53:00 PM PDT by irish guard
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To: Cementjungle

This is ABSCAM, only with Russians. Can’t wait until we get to the politicians involved.


70 posted on 10/30/2017 2:56:51 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (“The fundamental question of our time is whether the West has the will to survive.” - DJT)
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To: RummyChick

Insiders sent a poster to FR to claim its true. Trump is in a super duper secret alliance with mueller

Can you send me a link to LS claiming a ‘super duper secret alliance”? Thank you


71 posted on 10/30/2017 2:58:04 PM PDT by magglepuss
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To: editor-surveyor

Yes..but I see people who were screaming for mueller to resign actually believing this nonsense

But hey...I guess it could be true..I am not an insider nor do I have access to one.


72 posted on 10/30/2017 3:00:09 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: editor-surveyor
You’re ignoring the fact that Mueller is himself one of the major conspirators.

Actually, that was my point. I just did not make it very well apparently. Still, these indictments seem like good news to me. Nothing here touches Trump. However I am hearing there are four more coming down the pipe. We'll see.
73 posted on 10/30/2017 3:00:48 PM PDT by JoSixChip (Repeal and replace the gopE.)
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To: magglepuss

Sorry..cant link on phone. Just look at his profile. Claims its inside info


74 posted on 10/30/2017 3:01:06 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

No, sorry, I get pinged by LS to posts. I am asking for him specifically stating ‘super duper secret alliance”. Or, are you just making crap up?


75 posted on 10/30/2017 3:03:31 PM PDT by magglepuss
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To: magglepuss

Sigh..Just ask him or look at his posts from today


76 posted on 10/30/2017 3:07:22 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
but the little we know makes it sound like he was involved in tax evasion (illegal) to avoid paying legal taxes and did not report his holdings of these companies

Yes. Not enough detail, and I have no trust in the way Mueller and his enforcer Weissman wrote the allegations.

77 posted on 10/30/2017 3:10:40 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: JoSixChip

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If he put his best foot foreward, I don’t expect to be seeing much.
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78 posted on 10/30/2017 3:12:14 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: rdl6989

“the Podesta angle.”

The Podesta angle is to justify or legitimize Mueller’s continued fishing expedition on Trump. Otherwise known as a special counsel coup.
Mueller has 2 goals...bring down Trump and bury evidence against Obama’s treason regime that could get out in the wild.


79 posted on 10/30/2017 3:14:01 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Obama voters killed America. Treat them accordingly.)
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To: magglepuss

There has been no post that indicated that Trump and Mueller have a secret alliance from LS.


80 posted on 10/30/2017 3:14:32 PM PDT by MWestMom (If you believe in everything, you believe in nothing and you will fall for anything.)
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