” In the case of Catalonia I think france gave it to Spain. “
It was a kingdom that was joined to other kingdoms via marriage, the union of crowns, and (insert complicated European history here), leading to this region becoming part of the modern Spanish state.
There are lots of things the past 2000 years that didn’t exactly go up for a vote. That wasn’t how it was done, and hindsight isnt an excuse to now cry ‘unfair” now.
“Now Spain is supposedly a representative form of government which means that they should allow people to vote if they want to stay or go.”
No sane nation does this.
“The UK does it on a regular basis. “
Once =/= regular basis.
“Czechoslovakia voted to split and did so peacefully.”
the operative thing to remember is that that was not a secession via UDI, but a mutual dissolution. This is not.
” Someone once said that any religion you can not peaceably leave is not a valid religion but a cult.
Perhaps the same could be applied to countries.”
So a nation that doesn’t allow any willy-nilly faction to break pieces off because (insert feels here) is an illegitimate nation?
More then once. Why do you think Northern Ireland exists? They voted to stay part of the UK.