Posted on 10/28/2017 6:02:42 PM PDT by CodeToad
On October 12, 2017, Governor Jerry Brown of California signed into law a state-wide ban on employer inquiries into an individual’s salary history. The new law (AB 168) will apply to all employers, including state and local governments, and will take effect on January 1, 2018.
The new law continues the expansion of equal pay protection in California. California’s Equal Pay law has been on the books since 1949, requiring equal pay, regardless of gender, for equal work. It remained largely unchanged until 2016, when it was amended to require equal pay for “substantially similar” work.
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It's very rare for us to make an offer to somebody for less than what they are currently making. But if we have no way of finding out what they are making, I see this happening much more often.
This is why people job hop. You get low balled take the job and start looking for your next job on their dime. F-— ‘em.
Why would they ask if they are going to call any way themselves and find out? What f-—ing Nazi’s we have around here.
Low ball me and I will ride the clock until I get a higher paying job. lather rinse repeat.
Never said they did. In fact, I believe I said that you could refuse to tell them and both go your separate ways. No government necessary.
I’ve hired dozens of people and had a budget and salary ranges already lined up for each position before I started interviewing candidates. I NEVER once thought of asking about prior salary history. EVER. I am not a natural fascist I guess.
You are looking for a candidate that is making chump change so you can get a “deal”.
Translation "We are looking for a h-1b that will work incredibly cheap for 60 hours a week. On the off chance we can get an American that speaks proper English and is presentable perhaps you will work cheap also. So how much do you make?"
Simply not true at my company. And to be honest, you would not want to work at a company that practiced that method of hiring. Because even if you wrangled a higher starting salary out of them, they would keep that salary stagnant until you got frustrated and quit for another job. Who wants to deal with that?
Smart companies know that hiring on the cheap is actually more expensive over the long term than hiring quality people at higher wages. When I hire people, it's not for a job but for a career. The average tenure in my department is nearly 25 years. People are hired and they stay because we pay well and we have plenty of incentives (bonuses) for exceptional work.
Why wouldn't set a wage for the job BEFORE the interview process begins?
Because even if you wrangled a higher starting salary out of them, they would keep that salary stagnant until you got frustrated and quit for another job.
Now this is rich. I should ask for a low starting salary so I can get a raise to eventually get what I would have started with? Do you really expect ANYONE to buy that? Really? Are you a comedian?
This is what gives capitalism a bad name.
That’s....a pretty good stretch. I haven’t interviewed for a job in quite some time but I was asked for my previous salary and hiring a foreign worker was not remotely the reason, I would speculate that a very, very small percentage of jobs involve the option of hiring foreigners. I would also venture to say that a company that can and wants to hire H-1Bs isn’t going to waste their time interviewing US citizens.
Are you totally ignorant. The USA imports 65,000 H-1Bs every plus spouses. OPEN YOUR EYES.
Each our our positions has a wide salary range that accommodates variables such as skill set, education, experience, etc. You do not have a "set" salary for any position and the more information about the applicants previous history, the better an offer you can make. I've been a hiring manager since the 1990s and I've always looked for good talent and paid them well. We NEVER want to bring somebody on board with a salary less (or even the same) as what they were making before. We always want the move to our company to be a positive one and we want that person to make a career with us - not just come to us for a job. As I stated earlier, the average tenure with the employees in my department is almost 25 years. That is because we are a great company to work for and we pay well above industry average.
Next time you are in Manhattan, give me a heads up (through FreepMail) - I'll be glad to take you up to my office and have you meet some of the great people working for me.
“This is why people job hop. You get low balled take the job and start looking for your next job on their dime. F-— ‘em.”
The HR bimbos don’t have a clue about it, either. They could care less as it makes more work for them so they are happy. Corporate owners hate turnover but they rarely look at the policies that cause it such as lowballing.
“I’m doubting you’ve been part of a salary negotiation in a long time”
Well, you’re an idiot so I expect you would think such a thing. A teacher doesn’t negotiate anything any. They are union mentality workers and are not versed in the ways of the free market.
Your support of such things as salary price fixing says everything we need to know about you.
CNN reported in June 2017 there were 6 million jobs available in the US. You’re talking 65,000 out of 6 million and you’re calling me ignorant? Maybe you should open your eyes. Obviously this is an issue that is close to home for you and that’s unfortunate, but it doesn’t make you right.
I can remember a time before HR (ruled by females) when the personnel departments handled employee matters.
I call bullsh!t. You are liar like all HR punks. That is an out an out lie. Every job has salary range. EVERY ONE OF THEM. ...And military recruiters get a bad rap.
Moat hated people in America.
You're number 4, but keep trying!
In IT, H-1b has depressing salaries for decades. So where f have you been?
Ok you asked. I made $1,230,240.34/hr at my last job plus over time.
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