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Rand Paul Throws Incredible Shade At Lindsey Graham for Being a Warmonger
Reason ^ | October 23, 2017 | Ed Krayewski

Posted on 10/24/2017 8:10:21 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo

Rand Paul unloaded on Lindsey Graham today, in the way that only Twitter in the Trump Era can:

"You know you are in too many wars in too many places when even warmonger Lindsay Graham can't keep track anymore."

His comment was in reaction to the senior senator from South Carolina's stunning, but perhaps unsurprising, admission that Graham didn't know the U.S. had more than 1,000 troops in Niger in the war on terror.

If only he were a Reason reader, he might!

Paul's broadside is a substantive and stark reminder of how much the war on terror has transformed U.S. military policy and how far the Republican party has drifted from the heady days of 2013, when a veritable "civil war" seemed about to break out over non-interventionism's place in conservative philosophy.

Paul is absolutely right: the U.S. military is engaged in counter-terrorism operations, fighting too many wars in too many places around the world. And the almost complete lack of interest in a substantive engagement of foreign policy in the mainstream political debate compounds the problem.

Despite a U.S. military presence across West and Central Africa as well as Somalia, the only African country mentioned in any of the presidential debates was Libya, the site of one of the Obama administration's greatest foreign policy blunders, borne of needless interventionism.

Barack Obama eventually admitted the haphazard nature of the intervention was his administration's "worst mistake." Notably, Hillary Clinton, his first secretary of state and the 2016 Democratic presidential nominee, avoided drawing any lessons or admitting any mistakes.

Earlier this month, when news of the U.S. fatalities in Niger first broke, I predicted the U.S. war in West Africa would quickly recede from the public consciousness again. But for President Trump botching public and private remarks about the dead soldiers, it probably would have.

Before the election, I suggested Trump might be a less alarming candidate than Clinton because "at least with Trump you might have a Congress motivated to reassert its powers vis-a-vis the executive branch."

Paul and the other members of Congress skeptical of America's never-ending war on terror and string of aimless interventions have an opportunity to use Trump's clumsiness over the Niger deaths to expose the country's unchecked and—judging from Graham's reaction—largely unknown nature of this ever-expanding war.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; US: Kentucky; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: graham; randpaul; warparty
It's long past time for Congress to uphold the Constitution and take seriously its responsibilty to declare war before US troops are sent abroad into combat. If Congress will not declare war, presidents should not commit our military. If the Constitution is judged deficent under modern conditions, the solution is to amend it, not ignore it.
1 posted on 10/24/2017 8:10:21 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Lot’s of people here on FR who cheer every interventionist policy that comes down the pike. The sad reality is that good Christian men and women (who have traditionally formed the bulk of the U.S. military) are sent to off to die for the militantly secular, globalist policies of elites.


2 posted on 10/24/2017 8:14:22 AM PDT by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Having troops in 150+ countries isn’t defense, it’s empire.

No declaration of war, no troops. Let other countries pay their way. The South Koreans -sure great folks and allies - but they make enough money they can pay for their defense, dammit.

The entirety of the rest of the world is not worth the blood of one American soldier or one taxpayer cent; no more foreign aid and only the minimum of bases.


3 posted on 10/24/2017 8:14:36 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: RedStateRocker

“No declaration of war, no troops. Let other countries pay their way. The South Koreans -sure great folks and allies - but they make enough money they can pay for their defense, dammit.

The entirety of the rest of the world is not worth the blood of one American soldier or one taxpayer cent; no more foreign aid and only the minimum of bases.”

Agree with your last sentence. But Korea is an entirely different matter since NK does, or will have shortly, the ability to deliver a nuclear weapon directly onto our soil. And for me, it goes way beyond getting countries who do not constitute a direct threat to pay us for their defense. We should not be mercenaries either. Our youth deserve to live out their entire lives as opposed to giving them up in some African $hit hole country. Or the ME as well. And if we have to take out NK, no “follow on nation-building.” Feed them in the short term, but that’s all.


4 posted on 10/24/2017 8:29:20 AM PDT by vette6387 (LOCK HER UP! COMEY TOO.)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

It irritates me that President Trump only receives about 5% positive coverage on the network news. It irritates me even more that almost all of that is when he flexes his military muscle. I am prior-service and strongly pro-military, but I am skeptical of using our military in many of these situations.

“Trump seemed presidential” just because he bombed someone is not what I want to see on the news. All I want to see is that he bombed someone, who he bombed, and why.


5 posted on 10/24/2017 8:34:34 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Pollster1

Big media knows big war equals big ratings.


6 posted on 10/24/2017 8:36:56 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

The US set up a drone base in Niger, supposedly targeting whatever Islamic faction was in the disfavor of Obama’s favorite faction at the time. How could anyone imagine that such a base wouldn’t be targeted and need to be defended by more than a few security guards?


7 posted on 10/24/2017 8:42:06 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto

I imagine there are many interventionist loose ends from Obama’s tenure that need cutting.


8 posted on 10/24/2017 8:45:14 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Bishop_Malachi
Rand Paul Throws Incredible Shade At Lindsey Graham...

Is this title misleading? I thought throwing shade for someone meant to defend that person or deflect for that person. Rand did just the opposite.

9 posted on 10/24/2017 8:45:37 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: vette6387

So we sell SK some nukes:-)

Yep, either take them out now of let the Japanese and South Koreans do it, ‘nuke now, pay later’ although Japan could probably have a working nuke and the ability to deliver it by this weekend, if they don’t already.


10 posted on 10/24/2017 8:46:27 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: Bishop_Malachi

Good post, but I really question just what rationale a “good Christian” uses when allowing himself to be used as a tool for a radically secular empire.


11 posted on 10/24/2017 8:54:57 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Tell them to stand!" -- President Trump, 9/23/2017)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Big media disgusts me.


12 posted on 10/24/2017 8:55:51 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
Who is this guy and why do I care what he thinks? He's another never Trumper from the Deep State.

His comments regarding “Trump's clumsy comments” disqualifies his opinions on much deeper issues.

All you jerks on this thread seem to forget the Taliban and bin laden managed to attack us on 9/11. Until you brainiacs have a better solution without depending on light weight authors to support your opinions I will pass on your recommendations.

13 posted on 10/24/2017 8:57:40 AM PDT by Chgogal (Sessions recused himself for shaking an Ambassador's hand. Shameful!)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

“Shade” seems to be the meme word of the week.

Anyone have an English translation?


14 posted on 10/24/2017 9:48:44 AM PDT by Rebelbase (There are only two genders. The rest are mental disorders.)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

How long until Lindsey Graham and John McCain start agitating for sending US troops to protect Rohinga Muslims in Myanmar?


15 posted on 10/24/2017 11:36:31 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: Alberta's Child

Good post, but I really question just what rationale a “good Christian” uses when allowing himself to be used as a tool for a radically secular empire.

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Most join the military when they are young. They join for many reasons, but one popular reason is “Defending Freedom”. This noble attitude can be exploited by interventionist who use the military as an instrument of globalist business interests. It really is the job of mothers and fathers to start sobering up their children. Otherwise generations of social conservatives will shed their own blood doing precisely the opposite of strengthening U.S. independence and sovereignty.


16 posted on 10/24/2017 11:41:10 AM PDT by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: Bishop_Malachi
They join for many reasons, but one popular reason is "Defending Freedom."

No offense, but anyone who is that stupid should be disqualified from military service.

17 posted on 10/24/2017 11:42:21 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Tell them to stand!" -- President Trump, 9/23/2017)
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