'USS Bread and Water': Old and rare punishment loomed over a demoralized crew

www.navytimes.com ^ | 10/10/2017 | By: Geoff Ziezulewicz

[Gay State Conservative]

Try this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0Sh3jjDdEE

It's not an official "link"...you have to copy and paste the URL...I'm too lazy to look up how to post a link! :-)

[The_Media_never_lie]

Why is the Lt. j.g. (on Aycock’s left) finger pointing toward the old man?

[Mears]

Highlight it in blue

Ctr/C-—this will save it.

And then post it where you want it using Ctrl/V

I learned this from a Freeper years ago.

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[Snickering Hound]

Had to look her up....found her in wikipedia.Is an "Admiral's Mast" the same thing as an Army "Article 15"? I assume it is because "non-judicial punishment" was mentioned.

Holly Graf was the Captain of the cruiser Cowpens and would cuss out junior officer and enlisted and even assault them.

It was bad enough that a female Captain was busted out of the service.

[The_Media_never_lie]

He was on a ship, guarding a door for no apparent reason. He was standing and closed his eyes. When he opened them, there was a Captain in his face.

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Falling asleep on guard duty is a breech of discipline. Doesn't matter what was being guarded.

[Snickering Hound]

http://militarycorruption.com/hollygraf2.htm

A little more on Holly Graf.

[Popman]

——Navy officers really, truly, believe they are some sort of American aristocracy——

That’s an interesting observation...

I know a very close person to me that became a complete and utter raging asshole as be rose in rank to Lt. Commander over the years.

He simply thinks his opinion is faultless and beyond reproach. Almost god like.

I guess i know why now...I’m a mere peasant in his eyes...

[Ace's Dad]

Navy officers really, truly, believe they are some sort of American aristocracy

Actually, we are.

I'd die for my sailors. Wouldn't have to think about it.

Now that I'm thinking on it, I'd kill for my sailors as well.

[Cuttnhorse]

Good one...one of the best movies ever made!!

From and old Tin Can sailor

[Kommodor]

That’s the look of a man who knows where his strawberries are...

[Mariner]

USS Shiloh has not been involved in any collisions, or near collisions.

She’s fit and ready for war at sea.

[Calvin Locke]

The Quantico Marine Detention Barracks will put people on B&W for two weeks at a time, usually for fighting amongst themselves.

I wonder if the rules change was by the MD idiot the wanted to abolish the death penalty for treason (while BHO was CIC, for some strange reason...)

[reed13k]

Yep my first co’s go to was 45 day restriction, 45 days of reduced pay, and a reduction in rank. Had a CPO reduced to first class shortly after I left. That was unheard of for a Captain’s Mast....never heard of another khaki losing rank outside of a court-martial.

[Oatka]

He was on a ship, guarding a door for no apparent reason. He was standing and closed his eyes. When he opened them, there was a Captain in his face.

Old British Army joke about a sentry who dozed off. He heard a noise, opened his eyes and saw the feet of an officer in front of him.

He said "Amen" and raised his head in all innocence.

[5th MEB]

I did 8 weeks on bread and water (plus all the salt I wanted) in the Camp Pendleton red line brig (solitary confinement) in 72, actually gained weight.
All charges were dropped in the General Courts Martial just as a matter of interest.

(no, I was not guilty even though it looked like I would do 20 at Portsmouth Naval Prison)

[Teacher317]

Fears about bread-and-water punishments were among several recurring complaint themes

People should not be afraid of the punishments for breaking the rules. If they fear the consequences, they might choose to not break the rule I the first place!!! Think of all the proper behavior that might break out!!