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'USS Bread and Water': Old and rare punishment loomed over a demoralized crew
www.navytimes.com ^ | 10/10/2017 | By: Geoff Ziezulewicz

Posted on 10/10/2017 1:12:31 PM PDT by Red Badger

Sailors aboard the cruiser Shiloh during the 26-month command of Capt. Adam M. Aycock often worried about the CO’s use of one of the Navy’s most arcane punishments: confinement for three days in the brig while being fed only bread and water.

Over time, Aycock’s proclivity for using bread and water to punish junior sailors became well-known on the Yokosuka, Japan, waterfront, where the Shiloh is based, according to sailor comments in three of the ship’s command climate surveys.

“I do not wear my ballcap at the (Navy Exchange store),” one sailor wrote. “Even the taxi drivers on base know us for being the ‘USS Bread and Water.’”

“Were [sic] are known for beating our people down for bread and water,” another wrote. “Not the work we do.”

Fears about bread-and-water punishments were among several recurring complaint themes in the three surveys during Aycock’s command, obtained by Navy Times.

Aycock declined to comment for this story via a spokesperson at the Naval War College, where he is now stationed as a researcher.

On July 6, 2015, less than two weeks after reporting to the Shiloh, Aycock handed down what records indicate was his first bread and water sentence.

That first sailor had been late for curfew and absent without leave, according to records obtained by the Navy Times via a Freedom of Information request.

At least six other Shiloh sailors would receive bread and water under Aycock, for offenses that included curfew violations and underage drinking, the records show.

One sailor got bread and water in part for lying about his mother living “in a dangerous area,” according to records.

Several sailors wrote in the surveys that the infractions were the type of thing that should have been corrected by enlisted leadership.

Wallace Lovely, a retired captain who led Destroyer Squadron 31 and the frigate Samuel B. Roberts, recalled giving out bread and water once, at the urging of his chiefs, instead of administratively separating a troubled sailor.

Other retired skippers also said the action is rare.

“To hear that [bread and water] was used with frequency is unnerving,” Lovely, who retired last year, said in an email. “And to hear time and time again that threats of punishment were held over heads is unfortunate.”

The command surveys reveal sailors outraged by bread and water, worrying that minor, on-the-job mistakes would get them taken to captain’s mast.

“If SN Timmy shows up for work 20 min [sic] late or gets into…what anyone would call a minor incident they are sent to the brig and get the Command Bread and Water special,” one sailor wrote in the August 2015 survey.

“The most absurd charges are used to send sailors to the brig and put them on bread and water,” another wrote. “The poor treatment of this command’s sailors has led to more than one sailor changing their career plans and choosing to leave the Navy rather than stay in and deal with any more of this garbage.”

The first sailor that records show Aycock disciplined with bread and water was a Fire Controlman 3rd Class, an E-4, according to records.

Navy regulations state bread and water can only be dished out to sailors ranked E-3 and below.

But records from that case show the sailor was busted down a paygrade for the same infraction.

Emails obtained by Navy Times also show officials with Regional Legal Service Office were asking questions about Aycock’s use of bread and water.

Those records were heavily redacted when provided in response to a Freedom of Information request, and Navy Times is appealing the redactions as well as whether all requested emails were provided.

“The CO is very strict and we’ve had at least five Article 15s with Bread and Water punishments since I’ve been here!” a ship secretary wrote in a 2015 email.

Navy officials declined to say where the Shiloh sailors served the three-day punishments, but the Navy has a brig facility at Yokosuka, where the cruiser is based.

Officials were also unable to provide a number regarding how many bread and water punishments have been handed down by COs of other 7th Fleet vessels.

“To date, confinement on bread and water remains a valid punishment,” Naval Surface Force spokesman Cmdr. John Perkins said in an email.

Ending bread and water is one of a set of military justice reforms included in last year’s defense bill that are awaiting President Trump’s signature.

“Bread and water is a punishment that i [sic] feel should be reserved for those that commit the highest of offenses,” one Shiloh sailor wrote in a survey. “Ship, shipmate, self is often preached onboard this ship but I believe it needs to be revised. A happy crew is a healthy crew that will stick up for each other and band together.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Japan
KEYWORDS: cruiser; japan; militaryjustice; navy; reform; shiloh; snowflakes; usnavy; ussshiloh
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Capt. Aycock looks on as the Shiloh is brought into dry dock for scheduled maintenance. (Lt. j.g. William McGough/Navy)

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1 posted on 10/10/2017 1:12:31 PM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

3 days bread and water beats 45&45 in my book.


2 posted on 10/10/2017 1:17:36 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Red Badger

He’s a power tripping homo, isn’t he.


3 posted on 10/10/2017 1:19:05 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Red Badger
Ramona V. Flowers: This is good garlic bread.

Scott Pilgrim: Yeah, I think garlic bread would have to be my favourite all-time food. I could eat it for every meal. Or just constantly, without stopping.

Ramona V. Flowers: Then you'd get fat.

Scott Pilgrim: No, why would I get fat?

Ramona V. Flowers: Because bread makes you fat.

Scott Pilgrim: Bread makes you fat?

4 posted on 10/10/2017 1:19:11 PM PDT by bagster (Even bad men love their mamas.)
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To: Red Badger

Calling Mr Roberts

Bread and water is disastrous on the gut. Packs you in like cement


5 posted on 10/10/2017 1:19:40 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Red Badger
The real question here is whether it was WHITE bread and water, which would show that the Captain had racist proclivities. </sarc>
6 posted on 10/10/2017 1:20:24 PM PDT by PROCON (#MAGA)
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To: Red Badger

A little kick in the pants and they can’t handle this?? How’d we win any war at all?


8 posted on 10/10/2017 1:21:27 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Darksheare

Sounds like he and his command crew are all fags.......................


9 posted on 10/10/2017 1:21:28 PM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: Red Badger
p07

Even Holly Graf didn't last that long.

10 posted on 10/10/2017 1:22:05 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Red Badger

Notice the captain in question is no longer in command. They wisely put him in charge of a broom closet at the Naval War college.

CC


11 posted on 10/10/2017 1:22:58 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (It don't matter if your heart is in the right place, if at the same time your head is up your a$$)
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To: jospehm20

They’re crying about bread and water? No wonder Iran was able to capture US sailors.
I thought the worst thing was the man on guard making sure no one in the brig got any sleep.

They could always bring back flogging...give people something real to cry about.


12 posted on 10/10/2017 1:23:28 PM PDT by piasa (...)
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To: lavaroise

The beatings will continue until morale improves.....................


13 posted on 10/10/2017 1:23:42 PM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: lavaroise

Better to leave discipline of junior sailors up to the Chiefs.

They’re much more imaginative.


14 posted on 10/10/2017 1:23:51 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Red Badger

How did he rise to Captain of a large ship? There must have been previous indicators in his career.


15 posted on 10/10/2017 1:23:51 PM PDT by lurk
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To: Darksheare

He does kind of look like it posed that way.


16 posted on 10/10/2017 1:24:34 PM PDT by piasa (...)
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To: lurk

Some are really good at brown nosing....................


17 posted on 10/10/2017 1:24:47 PM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: Snickering Hound

Good lord, the gaydar goes to 11 on that one.

CC


18 posted on 10/10/2017 1:25:51 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (It don't matter if your heart is in the right place, if at the same time your head is up your a$$)
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To: Red Badger

Bring back the lash.


19 posted on 10/10/2017 1:26:03 PM PDT by existtoexcel
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To: Red Badger

Ahh, but the strawberries that’s... that’s where I had them. They laughed at me and made jokes but I proved beyond the shadow of a doubt and with... geometric logic... that a duplicate key to the wardroom icebox DID exist, and I’d have produced that key if they hadn’t of pulled the Caine out of action. I, I, I know now they were only trying to protect some fellow officers...


20 posted on 10/10/2017 1:26:14 PM PDT by Autonomous User (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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