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Why L.A. is right to replace Columbus Day with Indigenous Peoples Day
Los Angeles Times ^ | October 9, 2017 | Steven W. Hackel

Posted on 10/09/2017 6:11:26 AM PDT by artichokegrower

After much debate, both the Los Angeles City Council and the L.A. County Board of Supervisors recently voted to replace the Columbus Day holiday with Indigenous Peoples Day, beginning no later than 2019. Although to many this change will seem long overdue, others wonder why our elected officials have ventured into this political thicket.

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KEYWORDS: bluezones; columbusday; dopeydems; revisionisthistory
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To: allendale

“Just try to imagine what would have become of those “indigenous peoples” if Europeans had never arrived.”

North America would still be full of stone age savages with no written language, or even the wheel. Hatred of Columbus for the discovery of the “New World” is ridiculous. Does ANYONE believe that if Columbus had not been born North and South America would not have eventually been discovered? “NEWS FLASH...First Astronauts in orbit discover huge unknown land mass between Europe and Asia!”


41 posted on 10/09/2017 6:42:31 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (The DemocRAT party has been taking a knee on America for decades.)
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To: Trump20162020
“Indigenous Peoples Day” is some laughable meme non-holiday that only exists in the minds of some Democratic city councilmen in the bluest areas of the United States.

And "gay" people are still in the closet, still invisible on TV, never written about, and the notion of gay "marriage" is as preposterous as ever. Thank God they don't have any political power to punish those who don't rejoice at their lovely and healthy "lifestyle" and we are still free to say what we think about it without any fear of reprisal.

42 posted on 10/09/2017 6:47:03 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: artichokegrower

Murderous?

Good God. Racism, sure, but generally murderous?

How do we still have all these “diverse” people here if they were so murderous? Their Christianity generally held back any of that.

As if the Spanish were so wonderful; their only saving grace being some Catholic influence. Unfortunately, always tempered by Moslem influence genetically as well as culturally.

I’m sick of this slander of our country.


43 posted on 10/09/2017 6:47:35 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: onedoug

Couldn’t overlook tribalism.


44 posted on 10/09/2017 6:48:56 AM PDT by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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To: allendale

They came over the Siberian land bridge 13,000 years ago. There are no indigenous people in North America.


45 posted on 10/09/2017 6:49:22 AM PDT by kabar
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To: artichokegrower

But after the U.S. acquired California from Mexico in 1848, the Gold Rush drew a tidal wave of Anglo Americans from the U.S., who brought with them a murderous racism that worked to oppress indigenous people and render them all but invisible.

By the time 1848 came around the evil blood thirsty murderous savages known as the Conquistadors, Spaniards had already Wiped out the Indigenous Natives that lived here. Not sure why these idiots believe the Spaniard Murderers are the indigenous people, they NEVER WERE!


46 posted on 10/09/2017 6:52:04 AM PDT by eyeamok (Idle hands are the Devil's workshop)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
First Americans lived on land bridge for thousands of years, genetics study suggests

The theory that the Americas were populated by humans crossing from Siberia to Alaska across a land bridge was first proposed as far back as 1590, and has been generally accepted since the 1930s.

But genetic evidence shows there is no direct ancestral link between the people of ancient East Asia and modern Native Americans. A comparison of DNA from 600 modern Native Americans with ancient DNA recovered from a late Stone Age human skeleton from Mal'ta near Lake Baikal in southern Siberia shows that Native Americans diverged genetically from their Asian ancestors around 25,000 years ago, just as the last ice age was reaching its peak.

Based on archaeological evidence, humans did not survive the last ice age’s peak in northeastern Siberia, and yet there is no evidence they had reached Alaska or the rest of the New World either. While there is evidence to suggest northeast Siberia was inhabited during a warm period about 30,000 years ago before the last ice age peaked, after this the archaeological record goes silent, and only returns 15,000 years ago, after the last ice age ended.

So where did the ancestors of the Native Americans go for 15,000 years, after they split from the rest of their Asian relatives?

Surviving in Beringia

As John Hoffecker, Dennis O'Rourke and I argue in an article for Science, the answer seems to be that they lived on the Bering Land Bridge, the region between Siberia and Alaska that was dry land when sea levels were lower, as much of the world’s freshwater was locked up in ice, but which now lies underneath the waters of the Bering and Chukchi Seas. This theory has become increasingly supported by genetic evidence.

The Bering Land Bridge, also known as central part of Beringia, is thought to have been up to 600 miles wide. Based on evidence from sediment cores drilled into the now submerged landscape, it seems that here and in some adjacent regions of Alaska and Siberia the landscape at the height of the last glaciation 21,000 years ago was shrub tundra – as found in Arctic Alaska today.

This is dominated by dwarf shrubs such as willow and birch, only a few centimetres tall. There is evidence that there may have been some stands of spruce trees in these regions too in some protected microhabitats, where temperatures were milder than the regions around. The presence of a particular group of beetle species that live in shrub tundra habitats today in Alaska, and are associated with a specific range of temperatures, also supports the idea that the area was a refuge for both flora and fauna.

This kind of vegetation would not have supported the large, grazing animals – woolly mammoth, woolly rhino, Pleistocene horses, camels, and bison. These animals lived on the vegetation of the steppe-tundra which dominated the interior of Alaska and the Yukon, as well as interior regions of northeast Siberia. This shrub tundra would have supported elk, perhaps some bighorn sheep, and small mammals. But it had the one resource people needed most to keep warm: wood.

The wood and bark of dwarf shrubs would have been used to start fires that burned large mammal bones. The fats inside these bones won’t ignite unless they are heated to high temperatures, and for that you need a woody fire. And there is evidence from archaeological sites that people burned bones as fuel – the charred remains of leg bones have been found in many ancient hearths. It is the heat from these fires that kept these intrepid hunter-gatherers alive through the bitter cold of Arctic winter nights.

Escape to America

The last ice age ended and the land bridge began to disappear beneath the sea, some 13,000 years ago. Global sea levels rose as the vast continental ice sheets melted, liberating billions of gallons of fresh water. As the land bridge flooded, the entire Beringian region grew more warm and moist, and the shrub tundra vegetation spread rapidly, out-competing the steppe-tundra plants that had dominated the interior lowlands of Beringia.

While this spelled the end of the woolly mammoths and other large grazing animals, it probably also provided the impetus for human migration. As retreating glaciers opened new routes into the continent, humans travelled first into the Alaskan interior and the Yukon, and ultimately south out of the Arctic region and toward the temperate regions of the Americas. The first definitive archaeological evidence we have for the presence of people beyond Beringia and interior Alaska comes from this time, about 13,000 years ago.

These people are called Paleoindians by archaeologists. The genetic evidence records mutations in mitochondrial DNA passed from mother to offspring that are present in today’s Native Americans but not in the Mal'ta remains. This indicates a population isolated from the Siberian mainland for thousands of years, who are the direct ancestors of nearly all of the Native American tribes in both North and South America – the original “first peoples”.

47 posted on 10/09/2017 6:54:35 AM PDT by kabar
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To: artichokegrower; All; Liz; HarleyLady27; davikkm

It is high time for the Federal government to bust California’s legal team. Democrat hacks hiding on California’s state payroll.

https://www.oag.ca.gov/news/press-releases/attorney-general-xavier-becerra-announces-executive-hires

Press Release 05-May-2017

Xavier Becerra, California Attorney General
Sean McCluskie, Chief Deputy Attorney General
Amanda Renteria, Chief of the Division of Operations
Laura Stuber, Senior Special Assistant Attorney General
Eleanor Blume, Special Assistant Attorney General
Jonathan “Jon” Blazer, Special Assistant Attorney General
Melanie Fontes Rainer, Special Assistant Attorney General
Kelli Evans, Special Assistant Attorney General
David Zonana, Special Assistant Attorney General
Alejandro Pérez, Special Assistant to the Attorney General, Office of Federal Affairs
Sirat Attapit, Director, Office of Legislative Affairs
Bethany Lesser, Communications Director
Chris Moyer, Deputy Communications Director
Patricia Moscoso, Executive Speechwriter
Liz Saldivar, Director of External Affairs


48 posted on 10/09/2017 7:01:49 AM PDT by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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To: mrmeyer
Couldn’t overlook tribalism.

Not with this gaggle of city and county scalp hunters.

49 posted on 10/09/2017 7:05:16 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Trump20162020

This “Indigenous” rip-off is popular in TX too: Austin has “Indigenous People’s Day” too and refuses to acknowledge Columbus. San Antonio, another liberal Mecca, is considering dismantling its Columbus statue after having already removed the statue to the unidentified Confederate soldier.


50 posted on 10/09/2017 7:13:25 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Let's not squander the golden opportunity of 2017.)
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To: kabar

“Nevertheless, indigenous people — those native to California and those who had settled here — persisted in Southern California, and many more continued to move here from all corners of the Americas.”

These are not indigenous Americans. They are foreigners. I was born in the USA. I am an indigenous American.


51 posted on 10/09/2017 7:13:35 AM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

Actually, when I was still in University a few years ago, I discovered a deeper ‘truth’ at play. If you REALLY push a lot of those folks, you soon discover that their opposition to ‘KKKolonialiSSt KKKleptomania’ (and yes, that IS how some of them write it: the ‘SS’ are rendered as Nazi lightning bolts), you discover that they aren’t actually opposed to ALL forms of Colonialism. Just English Colonialism. Other than a bit of anti-Cortes and anti-Columbus lip-service, the argument always gets around to ‘Occupied Aztlan’ and ‘Occupied Québec’. So, French, Spanish and Portuguese colonialists can be reconciled, but English ones cannot.


52 posted on 10/09/2017 7:17:09 AM PDT by Kriggerel ("All great truths are hard and bitter, but lies... are sweeter than wild honey" (Ragnar Redbeard))
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To: onedoug

Or sailed west and done the same things to Europeans


53 posted on 10/09/2017 7:22:52 AM PDT by liberalism is suicide
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To: allendale

OK, all us Americans of European descent, let’s pack up and move to Europe and see just how well indigenous people do with this country.


54 posted on 10/09/2017 7:32:11 AM PDT by liberalism is suicide
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To: artichokegrower

There are no people indigenous to the Americas.


55 posted on 10/09/2017 8:03:26 AM PDT by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: artichokegrower

“Native” Americans came from somewhere else just like all of us so who exactly are these indigenous people?

BTW, I was born on US soil, as my parents and my grandparents and so on back many generations. I’m a native American but not a Native American. Why do a special group get to have the N capitalized?


56 posted on 10/09/2017 8:13:52 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: artichokegrower; Jane Long; BlackFemaleArmyCaptain; Black Agnes; djstex; RoosterRedux; ...

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/proclamations

To make today Columbus Day...


57 posted on 10/09/2017 8:14:48 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 ( "The Force Awakens!!!"...Trump and Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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To: KC_Lion

Those so called “indigenous” (makes no sense) people are getting a free pass on scalping. Such peaceful folk. Never raised a hatchet at anyone. Never enslaved anyone.


58 posted on 10/09/2017 8:20:09 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: artichokegrower

Judging from what has been seen in our recent high school graduates, it’s highly doubtful any students this day and age would have the slightest clue as to what the word “Indigenous” even means. Most would tend to believe this would have something to do with sex, bi-sex, or trans-sex.

“President Donald J. Trump Proclaims October 6, 2017, as German-American Day”

Rats - my day, and missed it completely. No Wiener Schnitzel, Dampfnudel or strudel. AND here we have no beer. BOYCOTT, you know, Hold your horses - hold the nfl accountable.


59 posted on 10/09/2017 8:41:32 AM PDT by V K Lee (DJT: "Sometimes by losing a battle you find a new way to win the war. ")
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To: V K Lee

Good luck finding a wienerschnitzel at Der Wienerschnitzel. And don’t bother trying to tell them that it should be called Das Wienerschnitzel.


60 posted on 10/09/2017 8:46:30 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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