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Atlantic Editor: You're A Bad Parent If You Own A Gun
Townhall.com ^ | October 8, 2017 | Matt Vespa

Posted on 10/08/2017 3:19:30 PM PDT by Kaslin

We still don’t know what set off Stephen Paddock in Las Vegas. The 64-year-old checked into the Mandalay Bay hotel, went to the 32nd floor, took 23 firearms with him, and proceeded to fire upon the 22,000 concertgoers below at the Route 91 Harvest music festival. It was the last night of the festival. He killed 58 people and wounded nearly 500 more. He killed himself before police breached the door to his suite. 

As Democratic members of Congress prepare to push gun control again, they’re faced with the same obstacles of this increasingly stale debate over whether or not we should chip away at Americans’ constitutional rights. Paddock was independently wealthy which allowed him to buy a lot of firearms. All were purchased legally. He was no criminal history or known mental illness. So, there really isn’t much to advocate for in the legislative front, besides pushing an outright gun ban, which is unconstitutional and politically unfeasible. Senior editor at The Atlantic David Frum had a different take. Play the long game and ingrain into the national psyche that it’s dangerous to own guns, and that it makes you a bad parent to own guns. He said this Tuesday on MSNBC’s The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell. He was a guest on the show, along with Rep. Jackey Rosen (D-NV). Newsbusters clipped the exchange [emphasis mine]:


LAWRENCE O'DONNELL: The polling shows that most Americans agree with the congresswoman on this. 

DAVID FRUM: Well, I wish that were true, but I think when you face the reality, it just isn't. One of the things that we have seen over the past decade is a rising support among Americans for ever broader definitions of gun rights in exactly the way that Justice Burger warned us against. But that it where the country is.

And so it makes this -- and this is a really painful thing to say -- these technical fixes people look for, maybe if we had banned this implement or regulated that implement -- there is something very wrong with the American gun culture. Three percent of the people own 50 percent of the weapons in this country -- I mean, a tiny number of people and vast numbers of weapons.

Until you persuade people that it is just dangerous to themselves, to their children, you're not a good parent if you have a gun in the house, you're not protecting your family, you're a bad parent if you have a gun in the house, until you drill that idea into people's heads and persuade them to change the way we changed about cigarettes and seatbelts, these technical fixes aren't going to accomplish a lot. And pubic opinion -- you can make it look like it's on your side if you ask the poll question the right way, but operationally it's not.

Yeah, I’m sure that’s really going to go over well; telling Americans that they’re bad parents for exercising their constitutional right to own firearms. If anything, that will drive up sales. The firearm is an integral part of American culture and history. There is no escaping that, neither is the incessant push by liberals to blame the tens of millions (the overwhelming majority) of law-abiding American gun owners for the actions of criminals and insane people. Yet, the anti-gun Left keeps doing it, Americans still buy firearms in record numbers; Obama was a terrific salesman, and the Second Amendment stands strong.  


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; guncontroldebate; gunrights; lasvegas; lasvegasshooting; media; msm; nevada; secondamendment; stephenpaddock
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1 posted on 10/08/2017 3:19:30 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

You’re a bad parent if you do not teach your kids gun safety, proper gun handling and instill respect for our rights and our Constitution. Smoke that, liberal morons.


2 posted on 10/08/2017 3:23:02 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Kaslin

Who would own just one gun?


3 posted on 10/08/2017 3:25:19 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Kaslin

Only uncaring parents refuse to defend their children.


4 posted on 10/08/2017 3:26:47 PM PDT by CodeToad (CWII is coming. Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: dirtboy

I couldn’t agree more.


5 posted on 10/08/2017 3:26:53 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: dirtboy

You’re an incompetent editor if you try to tell us what kind of parent we are.


6 posted on 10/08/2017 3:27:09 PM PDT by I want the USA back (*slam is a violent political movement that hides behind the illusion of religion.)
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To: Kaslin

You can’t always listen to what ‘they’ say.
Some people think you’re a bad person just by producing children in the first place. They consider human beings a terrible stain and encumbrance on the face of mother-earth.


7 posted on 10/08/2017 3:28:48 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: Kaslin

You’re a Bad Parent if you let your children Watch TV


8 posted on 10/08/2017 3:28:57 PM PDT by eyeamok (Idle hands are the Devil's workshop)
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To: Kaslin
these technical fixes aren't going to accomplish a lot.

What are they trying to accomplish here?

9 posted on 10/08/2017 3:30:56 PM PDT by HonkyTonkMan
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To: Kaslin

It’s looking like he was a whoring left wing nut job who just wen bad. This was not a spontaneous act. Is was a methodical well planned out act of evil. Whether he acted alone, we will see.


10 posted on 10/08/2017 3:31:22 PM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: Kaslin

Thank you. FYI, I went 6 for 6. All college grads. All working, paying their bills. None received even a dime of government money.

You can blame it on my guns.


11 posted on 10/08/2017 3:33:02 PM PDT by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd [PBUH---Pigblood be upon him]; Charles Martel for President)
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To: Kaslin

Liberals will blab about anything and everything. Blabbermouths.


12 posted on 10/08/2017 3:33:09 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Kaslin

I qualify for being a REALLY bad parent, then.

And I am deplorablyextrasupercalafrgilisticlly deplorable.


13 posted on 10/08/2017 3:33:13 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (The Left's family value: 'The U.S. is the great enemy of mankind!' (Che Guevara, 1961))
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To: DownInFlames

Well with that Rat McCabe running the investigation we may not.


14 posted on 10/08/2017 3:34:27 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: Kaslin
No...you're a bad parent if you own a gun *and* fail to take all reasonable steps to ensure that your kids can't access it *and* fail to teach him/her the dangers involved.
15 posted on 10/08/2017 3:35:27 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (ObamaCare Works For Those Who Don't.)
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To: Kaslin

Where is this 3% of population owning 50% of firearms new taking point coming from???


16 posted on 10/08/2017 3:35:46 PM PDT by therut
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To: Kaslin

Same old drivel as in 1968, after the murder of Bobby Kennedy.


17 posted on 10/08/2017 3:36:23 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Kaslin
👹🍿🍻🚬. 12X? Min.
18 posted on 10/08/2017 3:38:03 PM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: Kaslin

Color me bad several times over.


19 posted on 10/08/2017 3:38:39 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl (Check out James Wood on Twitter - it's great! @realjameswoods)
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To: Kaslin

Dear Atlantic,

You are a bad parent if you encourage your prepubescent son to wear a skirt and go to the little girl’s room.


20 posted on 10/08/2017 3:38:41 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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