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It's A Trap: Republicans Are Open To Working With Democrats To Ban Bump Stocks
Townhall.com ^ | October 5, 2017 | Matt Vespa

Posted on 10/05/2017 4:57:59 PM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 10/05/2017 4:57:59 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Bump stocks are to guns like fart cans are to cars. They are stupid AF, but still not something that should be banned based on one attack.


2 posted on 10/05/2017 5:01:45 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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8 months in, nothing for us

4 days in, plenty for the Democrats

It’s just dumbfounding how bad Ryan and McConnell are.


3 posted on 10/05/2017 5:02:00 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
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Are they also going to ban belt loops? Shooters were using belt loops before there was a Bumpfire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-03y3R9o6hA


4 posted on 10/05/2017 5:03:07 PM PDT by Yogafist
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To: Kaslin

Tie it together with the 20 week abortion limit and let Democrats vote against their sacred cow.


5 posted on 10/05/2017 5:03:10 PM PDT by sportscaster ("LET'S ROLL")
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To: Bryanw92

One thing that I have always adored about Free republic is the vast quantity of thoughtful and informed analysis and information about a multiplicity of subjects. I am EXTREMELY disappointed about much of the bumpfire stock controversy. Much of it sounds has though it was promulgated by the ignorant gun grabbing left.

I am a 2 tour Vietnam infantry combat veteran, and a member of the Illinois National guard for 26 years, to include service in Iraq and the first Gulf War. I was a certified Illinois State Police Firearms and Defensive tactics instructor, and a member of Special Reaction and SWAT teams. I have fired hundreds of thousands of rounds through automatic weapons of all types, belt fed and shoulder mounted, ranging from .45 caliber M-3 sub machine guns up to M2A1 40 mm twin anti-aircraft guns mounted on an M-42 self propelled anti-aircraft gun.

I am retired and spend one day a month on the rifle range shooting my AR-15 rifles. When this slide fire device was first introduced, the low cost and novelty intrigued me and I purchased one. It was a bit awkward to use at first, but in one afternoon, after a bit of practice I was able to get 90% of any length burst on a man sized target at 75 yards, which is close to the normal engagement ranges for truly effective full auto fire from shoulder mounted weapons. It is not as useful has a true selective fire assault rifle since it requires two hands to employ, but it DOES have some measure of limited tactical utility for anyone who practices with it. I never really considered this item to be a true tactical instrument, but I did appreciate the ingenuity and thought that went into turning “bump fire’ into almost as accurate a technique has I could use with a true select fire assault rifle.

The battle has been joined. The anti-gun hysterics are in full cry. They will never satisfied until they achieve near total firearm confiscation. The genie is out of the bottle. You cannot stop psychopaths employing bump fire methods unless you can repeal the laws of Newtonian physics. I realize that some sort of regulation will ensue in the wake of this horrific atrocity. But I don’t like it one damn bit.

If they do this, then they should compromise by repealing the 1986 Hughes Act which caused the prices of full auto weapons to skyrocket. There is NO REASON for a legally transferable M-16 to cost over 50,000 dollars. You can be assured that any such owner will be thoroughly vetted by the background check that would be required to purchase one.


6 posted on 10/05/2017 5:03:32 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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“Bump stocks are to guns like fart cans are to cars”

I’m not a gun expert but shouldn’t it be easy to make an electrically powered gadget that would squeeze a trigger at whatever rate the shooter desired? Why bother with a touchy, bulky bump stock?


7 posted on 10/05/2017 5:05:19 PM PDT by cymbeline
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A 3D printer could print a bump stock rather easily.

BAN 3D PRINTERS!

8 posted on 10/05/2017 5:05:59 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Feminism DESTROYED females)
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“There’s no reason for a typical gun owner to own anything that converts a semiautomatic to something that behaves like an automatic.”

If he says that he would also say “There’s no reason for a typical gun owner to own a built-from-scratch full-automatic weapon.”

How about this for a reason? "Because I want to, and the government has no right to tell me I can't."

9 posted on 10/05/2017 5:06:46 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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Congress can stay the hell out of it. Trump can simply order Sessions to have the ATF reverse its OBAMA ERA decision approving bump stocks. End of story.


10 posted on 10/05/2017 5:07:02 PM PDT by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTLY.)
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To: Kaslin

McConnell and his RINOs are almost always supportibg leftist and statist agendas — against what most of us voted for. They’re a big part of the problem. We must must must replace them with better people asap!


11 posted on 10/05/2017 5:08:51 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicans are not born, they're excreted." -- Marcus Tillius Cicero)
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To: Kaslin

I’m sure one could rig something up in his basement, using a small electric motor spinning a disk with a cam, which could make a semi auto fire at full auto rate. As the author notes, the real target is all semi auto rifles.


12 posted on 10/05/2017 5:09:54 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: cymbeline

>>I’m not a gun expert but shouldn’t it be easy to make an electrically powered gadget that would squeeze a trigger at whatever rate the shooter desired?

And connect it by Bluetooth to a phone and create an app to set the rate and act as trigger!


13 posted on 10/05/2017 5:10:01 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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Heck no. Put it together with an 8 week limit.

Better yet, put it together with a ban on Planned Parenthood funding.

On the one hand, taking life is so wrong. On the other, taking life is so right.

Let ‘em squirm over that dilema.


14 posted on 10/05/2017 5:10:16 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
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"Tie it together with the 20 week abortion limit and let Democrats vote against their sacred cow."

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Is that when the heart starts beating? I'm for conception onward, but when the heart starts beating is a good start. They'd be MORONS not to do it.

15 posted on 10/05/2017 5:10:56 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (Jerusalem is the city of The Great King!)
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This stinks. It’s not winning that’s for sure. They need to stop screwing around with crap like “gun control” — and get back to work repealing Obamacare and lowering and simplifying taxes. And repatriating the Muslim invaders while we still can -


16 posted on 10/05/2017 5:11:03 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicans are not born, they're excreted." -- Marcus Tillius Cicero)
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To: CivilWarBrewing
"BAN 3D PRINTERS! "

It will come to that.

"Power comes from the nozzle of a 3D printer." Hat tip to some Freeper whose handle I have long forgotten.
17 posted on 10/05/2017 5:11:33 PM PDT by Garth Tater (Gone Galt and I ain't coming back.)
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To: Bryanw92

Either you support the 2nd Ammendment or you’re a gun grabber. You may believe only certain guns that have a stupid bump stock should be grabbed, but you’re still a gun grabber.

Do not let Congress and the ATF rewrite the definition of a machinegun to include bump stocks in the (unconstitutional) NFA. I guarantee you, once they do it, other items will follow - like magazines over 10 rounds or detachable magazine altogether. They will argue that those items allow the gun to shoot faster than should be allowed under common sense gun laws. And since they did it with bump stocks, legal precedence allows them to add magazines, drums, pistol grips, muzzle devices, bipods, etc. to the NFA registry.

And for those who don’t shoot much, you don’t need a bump fire stock to fire quickly. You can bump fire with a rubber band or even with an open palm with practice. A ban won’t do anything.


18 posted on 10/05/2017 5:12:44 PM PDT by Azeem (There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo.)
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To: Yogafist

YouTube take this down? I can’t get to it...


19 posted on 10/05/2017 5:12:51 PM PDT by databoss
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Hey, these preemptive surrenders by the GOP have always worked before, haven’t they? What could go wrong?


20 posted on 10/05/2017 5:13:19 PM PDT by Hacksaw (Support Alt-Tech: Gab.ai, Infogalactic.com, Brave browser)
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