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Please Stop With the Conspiracy Theories Surrounding the Las Vegas Shooting
Townhall.com ^ | October 5, 2017 | Steve Sheldon

Posted on 10/05/2017 3:25:24 PM PDT by Kaslin

Too many rumors are swirling around regarding the tragedy in Vegas from Sunday night. Let me start by dispelling with some of the questions floating around on the internet:


1.  How did he get that many weapons into his room without being noticed?  

A: With a luggage cart and ten suitcases over 3 days.

2.  How did he fire off that many rounds without training?  

A: A monkey can pull a trigger; and, who says he didn't have practice?

3. How was he able to kill that many people in such a short time?  

A: He had 11 minutes firing on near full-auto (using a bump fire device) into a crowd of people that had no idea where the fire was coming from.

4.  Why did he have so many weapons?  

A: First, he was a psychopath. Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said it best, "No Ma'am, I can't get into the mind of a psychopath at this point." 

Second, he probably thought he would be there for an extended period of time and perhaps thought he would heat up one or more guns. Maybe he wasn't good at changing magazines? Again, first answer is always a fit. Seriously, how can we apply reason to a psychopath?

5. How did he get his hands on fully automatic firearms?  

A: Investigation has determined that he had bump fire or slide fire devices on 12 of his firearms, which make them sound like a full-auto and operate much like a full-auto. They are approved by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and are easily available (until now).

6.  How was he able to remove a window with 800 pounds of hurricane glass without training? (I know, seriously, this was a question.) 

A: With a hammer.

7. How did he get up 32 floors with 400 pounds of equipment?  

A: With an elevator and luggage cart.

8.  What about the sounds of gunfire coming from other directions?  

A:  It was an echo. 

9. How does one man come to own $100K worth of weapons without being noticed?  

A: He was rich.  As far as what we know right now, all guns were purchased legally over a period of time from multiple vendors.  Every dealer and serious collector at a gun show has that many or more, and they are not psychopathic mass murderer candidates.

10: How is it possible that he killed/injured so many in such a short time...without training?

A:  He was able to fire uninhibited an unreported number of rounds into a massive crowd, where he couldn't miss hitting something. When we know more, it is likely that many of the injuries were not from gunfire but from the panic that ensued. However, considering the rate of fire and the mass of the crowd, it wouldn't be the least bit unreasonable to think that 50-70% of the bullets hit something.

11. What gun laws could have prevented this?  

A: None. He had no criminal background.

12. What about laws preventing mentally ill people from getting firearms?  

A: How does one accurately measure another's current mental stability or future propensity to become a psychopath among the group of every potential firearm purchaser?

13. What about the unidentified and unverified woman who told the crowd that a lot of people were going to die?  

Possible answers: 1. It is made up nonsense. 2. She was drunk.

14. What about the shots coming from other floors?  

A. Echoes, reflections of other things, reflections of the shooter across multiple reflective surfaces (Las Vegas is mostly glass)... 

Response questions:  Where in these locations was glass broken?  Where in these locations were reports of gunfire from adjacent rooms? (That's how the shooter was quickly located.) How did these mysterious shooters so quickly police up all their brass and keep the fire alarms from going off with all the smoke?

15. How did the shooter manage to record a video of himself?

A.  Ummmmm, I don't know, a tripod?

Finally, some questions for the conspiracy theorists.

How do hundreds of law enforcement officers secretly conspire to cover up evidence in one of the nation's worst modern massacres?  What would be their motivation? Would conspiracy advocates be satisfied when they see video evidence of the shooter by himself committing the act and ending it by putting a gun in his mouth?

I could go on, but you get the picture.  Please folks, stop with the conspiracy insanity and let the investigators do their jobs.  Seriously, just stop.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: conspiracytheory; grassyknoll; guncontrol; lasvegasshooting; magicbullets; yeaaaaaaaa
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To: bushpilot2

Mandalay Bay parent company fined after drug, prostitution sting.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-mo-mandalay-bay-drug-prostitution-fine-20140313-story.html


281 posted on 10/05/2017 8:10:57 PM PDT by bushpilot2
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To: bushpilot2

drugs and prostitution in Vegas? What is this world coming To?


283 posted on 10/05/2017 8:12:47 PM PDT by morphing libertarian (Imprison Obama, Clintons, Holder, lynch now.)
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To: Drew68

He was a very well-connected dude. If memory serves, Buckhead was the lead on demonstrating that the bogus USAFR memo attacking Bush 43 in 2004 could not have been genuine.

Also, we were the first to confirm it was Palin for VP in 2008 when we identified the USSS war wagons parked around her house in Wasilla and also the N number of the Gulfstream flying her to be with McCain in Ohio for the announcement.


284 posted on 10/05/2017 8:12:51 PM PDT by Strac6 ("Mrs. Strac, Pilatus, and Sig Sauer: All the fun things in my life are Swiss!")
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To: bushpilot2

Upper floors have separate reception and entrance. Not sure what upper floors.


285 posted on 10/05/2017 8:21:28 PM PDT by bushpilot2
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To: AndyTheBear
...f he attacked because he was a nutcase who hated loud music, then it makes perfect sense.
Good point. Will add that to my mental list of possible motivations.

Doesn't make any sense at all...This guy hauled 23 guns and thousands of rounds of ammunition up to his room and they just happened to be playing loud music across the highway so he decided to murder all of them, since he had the guns and ammo right there anyway???

286 posted on 10/05/2017 8:21:28 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: morphing libertarian

This property was targeted for the sting.


287 posted on 10/05/2017 8:22:48 PM PDT by bushpilot2
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To: bushpilot2

and???

My point I don’t give a damn about drugs and prostitution, especially in Vegas. Have you been to Vegas with any money? You can have what ever you want.


288 posted on 10/05/2017 8:24:40 PM PDT by morphing libertarian (Imprison Obama, Clintons, Holder, lynch now.)
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To: morphing libertarian

Suspicious fire MGM casino property in Macau. The fire delayed grand opening until Jan 2018.


289 posted on 10/05/2017 8:26:23 PM PDT by bushpilot2
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To: Strac6
Door was not ajar. Security guard has pass key, as security guards usually do.

Sheriff's comments at the press conference last night:

He [the security guard] was conducting an investigation based on customers calling in, and he was personally attempting to locate what was occurring, he happened upon that doorway because it was ajar, which keyed his interest, but our officers were in close proximity so as you can imagine by the timeline there, soon as they came out of the doorway from the elevator he was there so it happened in a matter of seconds

At another point, the sheriff said that even though the security guard had been shot, he was helping the officers clear people out of the other rooms using his pass key, until the officers insisted he go seek medical attention.

With respect to the SWAT team entering the perp's room, the Sheriff said they first entered by "setting off a breach" not by using a pass key to open the door.

290 posted on 10/05/2017 8:26:40 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: Iscool
Doesn't make any sense at all...This guy hauled 23 guns and thousands of rounds of ammunition up to his room and they just happened to be playing loud music across the highway so he decided to murder all of them, since he had the guns and ammo right there anyway???

D'oh!

Moreover, when I was away from the computer, heard Hannity report this evening that he had rented a hotel room overlooking a different concert in Chicago but didn't stay there. And had explosives in a vehicle he owned, and so forth.

The theory went back off my mental list then but I had not remembered to respond.

Whatever theory we now entertain should be consistent with him being planning on killing people in advance.

291 posted on 10/05/2017 8:27:26 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: cherry

Aren’t control freaks an odd sort. I’m amazed that it bothers them so much when others THINK, QUESTION, ANALYZE, RESEARCH, and DISCUSS events. I’m for free thought and speech, just like our FF.


292 posted on 10/05/2017 8:29:14 PM PDT by Kalamata (Inside Every Liberal is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out - D. Horowitz)
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To: Strac6

There was a big 4 engine plane with very swept wings in the pic I saw. Could’a easily been 3-4 years ago.

Where does the IC park their planes at LV?

Clintoons?

The Lyncher?


293 posted on 10/05/2017 8:29:46 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: Strac6

Thanks for the info.


294 posted on 10/05/2017 8:30:31 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: justa-hairyape

They arrested a second a day later, media blackout.


295 posted on 10/05/2017 8:31:08 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Strac6

The Gov’t needs to prove that they never had any “professional” contact with Paddock.


296 posted on 10/05/2017 8:32:35 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: nutmeg

bookmark


298 posted on 10/05/2017 8:33:18 PM PDT by nutmeg
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To: TigerClaws

http://www.neon-nettle.com/news/2880-second-shooter-arrested-day-after-las-vegas-massacre-mainstream-media-blackout


299 posted on 10/05/2017 8:33:34 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Kaslin

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Crap from Townhall is a total waste of bandwidth.

Conspiracies are never theoretical; they are the way most power brokers do business.

Enough of these willingly ignorant puffballs.
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300 posted on 10/05/2017 8:35:27 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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