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Please Stop With the Conspiracy Theories Surrounding the Las Vegas Shooting
Townhall.com ^ | October 5, 2017 | Steve Sheldon

Posted on 10/05/2017 3:25:24 PM PDT by Kaslin

Too many rumors are swirling around regarding the tragedy in Vegas from Sunday night. Let me start by dispelling with some of the questions floating around on the internet:


1.  How did he get that many weapons into his room without being noticed?  

A: With a luggage cart and ten suitcases over 3 days.

2.  How did he fire off that many rounds without training?  

A: A monkey can pull a trigger; and, who says he didn't have practice?

3. How was he able to kill that many people in such a short time?  

A: He had 11 minutes firing on near full-auto (using a bump fire device) into a crowd of people that had no idea where the fire was coming from.

4.  Why did he have so many weapons?  

A: First, he was a psychopath. Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said it best, "No Ma'am, I can't get into the mind of a psychopath at this point." 

Second, he probably thought he would be there for an extended period of time and perhaps thought he would heat up one or more guns. Maybe he wasn't good at changing magazines? Again, first answer is always a fit. Seriously, how can we apply reason to a psychopath?

5. How did he get his hands on fully automatic firearms?  

A: Investigation has determined that he had bump fire or slide fire devices on 12 of his firearms, which make them sound like a full-auto and operate much like a full-auto. They are approved by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and are easily available (until now).

6.  How was he able to remove a window with 800 pounds of hurricane glass without training? (I know, seriously, this was a question.) 

A: With a hammer.

7. How did he get up 32 floors with 400 pounds of equipment?  

A: With an elevator and luggage cart.

8.  What about the sounds of gunfire coming from other directions?  

A:  It was an echo. 

9. How does one man come to own $100K worth of weapons without being noticed?  

A: He was rich.  As far as what we know right now, all guns were purchased legally over a period of time from multiple vendors.  Every dealer and serious collector at a gun show has that many or more, and they are not psychopathic mass murderer candidates.

10: How is it possible that he killed/injured so many in such a short time...without training?

A:  He was able to fire uninhibited an unreported number of rounds into a massive crowd, where he couldn't miss hitting something. When we know more, it is likely that many of the injuries were not from gunfire but from the panic that ensued. However, considering the rate of fire and the mass of the crowd, it wouldn't be the least bit unreasonable to think that 50-70% of the bullets hit something.

11. What gun laws could have prevented this?  

A: None. He had no criminal background.

12. What about laws preventing mentally ill people from getting firearms?  

A: How does one accurately measure another's current mental stability or future propensity to become a psychopath among the group of every potential firearm purchaser?

13. What about the unidentified and unverified woman who told the crowd that a lot of people were going to die?  

Possible answers: 1. It is made up nonsense. 2. She was drunk.

14. What about the shots coming from other floors?  

A. Echoes, reflections of other things, reflections of the shooter across multiple reflective surfaces (Las Vegas is mostly glass)... 

Response questions:  Where in these locations was glass broken?  Where in these locations were reports of gunfire from adjacent rooms? (That's how the shooter was quickly located.) How did these mysterious shooters so quickly police up all their brass and keep the fire alarms from going off with all the smoke?

15. How did the shooter manage to record a video of himself?

A.  Ummmmm, I don't know, a tripod?

Finally, some questions for the conspiracy theorists.

How do hundreds of law enforcement officers secretly conspire to cover up evidence in one of the nation's worst modern massacres?  What would be their motivation? Would conspiracy advocates be satisfied when they see video evidence of the shooter by himself committing the act and ending it by putting a gun in his mouth?

I could go on, but you get the picture.  Please folks, stop with the conspiracy insanity and let the investigators do their jobs.  Seriously, just stop.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: conspiracytheory; grassyknoll; guncontrol; lasvegasshooting; magicbullets; yeaaaaaaaa
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To: smokingfrog

Bruce? Yeah and Arson and Burglery charges
The brother in FLA, Eric aint all there either and Pappy was a Psycho

I am willing to bet that mental health is the common denominator here and the majority of these unfortunate events


121 posted on 10/05/2017 4:35:33 PM PDT by mylife
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To: Kaslin

..and Adam Lanza acted alone, until you research his initial date of death recorded by the Social Security Death Index as being the DAY BEFORE THE SHOOTING. This is NOT ‘theory’. It’s true!


122 posted on 10/05/2017 4:36:06 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Feminism DESTROYED females)
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To: Hot Tabasco

The videos are also the property of a hotel that is about to be served with numerous lawsuits. Some will eventually leak out though.


123 posted on 10/05/2017 4:36:20 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Iscool
So which was the real one and which one the echo...

Pretty easy to figure that out by studying the recording in more detail. Echoes have a signature different than sound that arrived directly through airborne propagation.

And of course they have a fixed relationship in time, and usually in amplitude, to the original source sound. So for a recording from a fixed position of a sound emanating from a fixed position the echoes will have a fixed temporal relationship to the original sounds.

Given the large scale geometry of the area it is probably possible to infer the location of the original sound source or sources from the echo patterns.

124 posted on 10/05/2017 4:36:24 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Hot Tabasco

LOL


125 posted on 10/05/2017 4:36:48 PM PDT by txnativegop (The political left, Mankinds intellectual hemlock)
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To: smokingfrog

Valium prescribed for “anxiety”


126 posted on 10/05/2017 4:37:37 PM PDT by mylife
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To: Rennes Templar

How did someone fire thru the 4th floor window without breaking it?

2nd it has been reported that the flashing was from a strobe light.
How accurate I don’t know.

But the fact that the window wasn’t shot out/broken should suffice
that there wasn’t weapons being fired from that location.


127 posted on 10/05/2017 4:37:40 PM PDT by deport
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To: dragnet2

Only two motives. He was a flaming lib who hates conservatives (country music venue full of them) or Islam convert. I can tell by media silence.


128 posted on 10/05/2017 4:37:55 PM PDT by Hyman Roth
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To: Kaslin

IMHO the only cover-up at this point is the motive.

They KNOW the motive...or have strong evidence of the motive...and they have thus far managed to cover it up.

But only for a couple of more days and folks who know LEO folks in the LV area are starting to hear some things.


129 posted on 10/05/2017 4:38:20 PM PDT by Mariner (Pink Pussy Hats for the NFL)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

“-————until you research his initial date of death recorded by the Social Security Death Index as being the DAY BEFORE THE SHOOTING. This is NOT ‘theory’. It’s true!”

Are you saying that SS has never made an error? Ever?

.


130 posted on 10/05/2017 4:38:40 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Kaslin

Dittos


131 posted on 10/05/2017 4:39:52 PM PDT by Figment
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To: johniegrad

Very odd rant in the article. I think most of the conspiracy theories here on FR are totally ridiculous, but it’s natural to speculate in a case like this and I don’t see that the “investigators” are being hindered, even by the truly wacky posts.


132 posted on 10/05/2017 4:39:55 PM PDT by livius
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To: CivilWarBrewing
Read it and weep.. Boo!

Adam Lanza's Death Certificate Date: DECEMBER 13, 2012

133 posted on 10/05/2017 4:39:59 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Feminism DESTROYED females)
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To: Kaslin

Here’s my conspiracy theory. His target was the secret government planes and fuel tanks. When they didn’t explode he turned on the easy targets at the concert.

That explains him firing from two different windows. The first had a clear view of the tanks. When that didn’t work he smashed a different window that gave him a clear view of the concert goers.

And he wanted to escape. He would have wanted to see the results of his actions. He wasn’t on a suicide mission.


134 posted on 10/05/2017 4:41:13 PM PDT by Terry Mross (Liver spots And blood thinners.)
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To: Kaslin

You don’t even need one LEO person involved to have a conspiracy.

You may, however, need someone wearing a LEO uniform.

Remember the folks flashing Secret Service ID at the top of the Grassy Knoll.

They were not Secret Service.

Easy peasy.


135 posted on 10/05/2017 4:41:38 PM PDT by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: johniegrad
Everyone else is too stupid.

Some people are.

Seriously, though, everybody can comment and raise questions, but the author is right to discourage wild speculation.

When somebody says, "Please stop" it's not like they're banning all future discussion. If you disagree he can't bar you from participating.

But you should give his answers some serious consideration. Compared to a lot of the wild speculation people get into, what he says does carry some weight.

136 posted on 10/05/2017 4:42:34 PM PDT by x
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To: x

I’m probably more of a skeptic than most. But I welcome anyone with any ideas about what might be going on here. No harm comes to anyone from free discussion, only from suppressing it.


137 posted on 10/05/2017 4:45:05 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: livius
It doesn't matter what the investigators say, almost ALL of America knows that a right-wing GUN-LOVIN' Bible-toting old white guy would NOT gun down Republican-leaning, flag-waving, 'proud of the good ol' U.S. of A.' country music lovers!

America knows the shooter (or shooters) were EITHER ISIS-AFFILIATES or PROGRESSIVE LEFTIST-AFFILIATES, PERIOD.

America KNOWS this so NOBODY has to say it. Antifa's been a bit quiet as of late.

138 posted on 10/05/2017 4:46:01 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Feminism DESTROYED females)
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To: smokingfrog

Glassy knolls.


139 posted on 10/05/2017 4:46:42 PM PDT by mylife
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To: Kaslin

Good points and I would guess mostly right.
The investigation continues however; I wouldn’t be shocked if someone else helped him.


140 posted on 10/05/2017 4:46:56 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I don't want better government; I want much less of it.)
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