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ZuckerSmucks FB ^ | 10-5-17 | Lloyd Acree

Posted on 10/05/2017 12:25:22 PM PDT by Bob Celeste

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To: Bob Celeste

Lee Harvey Oswald, and Charles Whitman has much less densely populated target fields.


21 posted on 10/05/2017 12:42:16 PM PDT by Blue House Sue
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To: Bob Celeste
His theory is that the number of double- and triple-taps indicate the shooter was aiming with a great deal of skill rather than just hosing the area down with lead.

Seems like weak sauce to me.

22 posted on 10/05/2017 12:42:25 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>)
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To: Bob Celeste

Dude is full of it.


23 posted on 10/05/2017 12:42:28 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Bob Celeste

To the Left, chaos is a ladder to be climbed. No crisis should ever be left to go to waste.


24 posted on 10/05/2017 12:42:43 PM PDT by Obadiah
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To: Bob Celeste
I quickly started noticing a fowl odor in the news narrative on this Vegas massacre.

Chicken?

25 posted on 10/05/2017 12:43:49 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Bob Celeste
You might have already guessed, yes I knew right away the shooter was using a tripod or similar gear to stabilize the gun(s). But that alone is not enough to achieve both the high rate of fire and precision accuracy that occurred in Vegas. Only a precision-sighted rifle with a quality optic can drill those kinds of groupings at such a distance, but there's more--the longevity and redundancy of machine gun fire.

Far be it for a former blue-suiter such as myself to contradict the 8 years of experience by Marine Acree, but I don't think that the Marine Corps gave Marine Acree much training on the Slide Fire Solutions bump fire stock, operation of which relies on forward pressure applied to the foregrip and the free ability of the weapon to recoil into the shoulder.

Not something that can be done with any reliability from a bipod or tripod.

I also don't think that Marine Acree has any experience with 22,000 targets herded into an acre and a half of space, and how many hits one could make without any magnified optics at all.

Paddock had red dot sights on his bump fire stock equipped rifles, and a red dot is plenty accurate enough to lob rounds into the concert area.

26 posted on 10/05/2017 12:44:27 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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this whole ‘multiple shooters’ or ‘multiple sites’, where are all the other broken windows? did they shoot from the roof top?

i listed to the audio and sure, during a chaotic incident, there are bound to be mistakes, but there were a ton of police claiming different shots from areas away from the hotel and other audio where police noted it was from differing points in the hotel, etc...wish an expert would listen and see if they can clear up the odd audio reports.


27 posted on 10/05/2017 12:44:45 PM PDT by raygunfan
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To: Bob Celeste

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28 posted on 10/05/2017 12:45:02 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (You can't have totalitarian globalist government if the peasants are armed.)
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To: Bob Celeste

There is a strong possibility that the people were misinterpreting what they were seeing. It doesn’t mean they were, but it is a definite possibility.


29 posted on 10/05/2017 12:45:56 PM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Some people request no housekeeping on a daily basis, for privacy concerns. If asked what was so heavy, he could have stated he was getting ready for an event, and had lots of equipment.

I would imagine that lots of businessmen meet with people in hotels, conduct demonstrations of business equipment, etc. Especially the sort of people who reserve a suite.

30 posted on 10/05/2017 12:50:48 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big governent is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: PapaBear3625

That would make sense, and they could simply explain there were too many valuables/trade secrets to have staff coming in.


31 posted on 10/05/2017 12:53:02 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Some people request no housekeeping on a daily basis, for privacy concerns.

I always request no housekeeping, because I don't like people in my room.

Also, I've been known to order a couple extra drinks from room service to save for later, and say that there are two guests in order to get extra silverware, etc.
32 posted on 10/05/2017 12:54:10 PM PDT by caligatrux (Rage, rage against the dying of the light.)
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To: Bob Celeste
I have the same background. And I was an instructor (PMI). It's legit. The shooter was not a rifleman. And he had the resources to get a legit machinegun if he wanted to. Bump stock in an ineffective novelty.

A real rifleman would have killed 100+ with less wounded.

33 posted on 10/05/2017 12:55:13 PM PDT by Salvavida (The Missouri citizen's militia sends its regards.)
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To: Bob Celeste
I dont know what to call this kind of thinking.... Argumentum ad Expertum? It often fails. It reminds me of the Physics professor who argued that 911 had to be a demolitions job because the towers fell too fast (yeah, that still doesn't make sense but whatever, he was a PHYSICIST by Gods sake). Invariably, these analysis leave out details that would disagree with their conclusions (pinpoint accuracy? WTF, the guy sprayed an area with TENS OF THOUSANDS of people, who needs accuracy?). But since the person is some sort of "expert", people become afraid to disagree.

Conspiracy theories are generally absurd, and the people who adhere to them even when given info that would otherwise put them to rest, are... idiots.

34 posted on 10/05/2017 12:55:25 PM PDT by Paradox (Don't call them mainstream, there is nothing mainstream about the MSM.)
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To: Bob Celeste

Motive for active deployment of “Manchurian candidate” hypno-programmed assassin by the globalist oligarchy using the Democratic Party as their chief vehicle for world government and their hoped for brave new world order:

The Dems are in the doldrums. Unofficial polling is showing the Dems losing ground on global warming, their strategic manipulation for the destruction of nation state sovereignty. Their second major initiative- the removal of Trump is turning up bupkis. Their entire agenda is under water and they know they are out of time in the Age of Info. So Soros, Rockefeller, Bush & Co. needed to get the troops focused and angry. Look for more of these sorts of operations in the near future and then something really big, beyond 9/11.


35 posted on 10/05/2017 12:55:39 PM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: WeWaWes

“The guy has 20,000 targets and 72 minutes. Shocked he didn’t kill more. This was like shooting fish in a barrel so I don’t buy this story.”

Shooting lasted 10 minutes or so.

But yes, this is just another looney post.


36 posted on 10/05/2017 12:55:40 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: WeWaWes

Where did you get 72 minutes,

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The 72 minutes is the time from when the shooting started until the police broke into his room.
The shooting lasted somewhere around 12 minutes or so. Eventually we’ll get some better info.


37 posted on 10/05/2017 12:56:03 PM PDT by deport
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To: TigerClaws

Do you work for got news or something?


38 posted on 10/05/2017 12:56:23 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Bob Celeste
FB isn't likely to leave that up unless it serves some purpose. Some of it you have to take with a grain of salt. Some were asking why all those police in the ground didn't use longer-range weapons in their trunks to fire at the hotel windows to pin the shooter down. Maybe they aren't allowed issued rifles or didn't want to risk hitting other occupants of the hotel. To me it would be a no brainer if they had the range (which might have required an arc depending and would require expert marksmanship).

Somebody commented on a board that they didn't see any bump stocks and that the weapons were full-auto.

Maybe some of it will make better sense if we get an accurate timeline.

I always wonder why Jackie didn't get hit.

39 posted on 10/05/2017 12:57:50 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: grobdriver

If it’s time for that series to play out, I suppose it’s time to see if I can find me some of those guns that people keep losing in canoes...little oil, they should be just fine.


40 posted on 10/05/2017 12:58:39 PM PDT by 1_Inch_Group (Country Before Party)
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