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Why gun experts don’t support banning – or buying – ‘bump stocks’
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | October 4, 2017 | Harry Bruinius & Patrik Jonsson

Posted on 10/04/2017 3:41:50 PM PDT by Jagermonster

HOW OTHERS SEE IT   Twelve of the 23 guns found in the Las Vegas shooter’s hotel room were retrofitted with an add-on that allows a semiautomatic weapon to mimic the action of an automatic, according to the ATF. The buzz surrounding these add-ons follows a now-familiar pattern.

LAS VEGAS AND ATLANTA—As Andrew “Mr. Wick” Wickerham helps his customers at the 2nd Amendment Gun Shop in Las Vegas on Tuesday, he mentions how he’s getting a little annoyed at this “new buzzword” circulating among gun owners.

“All of the sudden we’re getting all these calls about these bump-fire stocks,” says Mr. Wickerham, a combat veteran who served 10 years with the Marines. “It’s getting ridiculous – these people never even knew what a bump-fire stock was until they saw it on the news. It’s the new hype. All of the sudden, people are saying, ‘I got to get one of these before they’re not available anymore.’ ”

Also called a slide-fire stock, the add-on can make a legal semi-automatic assault-style rifle mimic a machine gun, experts say. The weapon’s natural recoil is harnessed to “bump” back and forth on a sliding stock attached to the gun’s trigger, which allows it to fire as fast an automatic weapon that would otherwise violate federal law.

The current buzz surrounding these add-ons for assault-style rifles is following a now-familiar pattern: Whenever the country experiences a mass shooting, sales of weapons often spike, as many worry that lawmakers may tighten gun control laws.

When it comes to bump-fire stocks, however, Wickerman and other gun experts are just not impressed.

Make no mistake, Wickerham is adamantly opposed to any further federal or state regulations. Also the owner of 3 Degrees Tactical, which trains and certifies police officers, armed security ...

(Excerpt) Read more at csmonitor.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: bumpfiring; lasvegas; shooter
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1 posted on 10/04/2017 3:41:50 PM PDT by Jagermonster
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To: Jagermonster

Go monthly guys!


2 posted on 10/04/2017 3:44:52 PM PDT by major-pelham
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To: Jagermonster

I’ll trade bump stocks for unlicensed and unregulated suppressors.


3 posted on 10/04/2017 3:49:25 PM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: major-pelham

The Vegas shooting was a rich guy on a suicide mission. He had 12 bump stock equipped rifles in the room with high capacity magazines. He could empty them all quickly into the crowd and not even have to change magazines. It was fish in a barrel. The device equipped rifles did not have to be accurate to inflict mass damage.

These event are extremely unusual making a screwball device look more sinister than it would be on one rifle at at time.
I don’t favor a ban on these, but it may happen.


4 posted on 10/04/2017 3:55:35 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Jagermonster

Bump fire stocks are a joke.

They have no practical value and cannot be controlled to provide precision shooting.

All they are good for is to burn up and waste lots of expensive ammunition at the range.

They can be kind of fun in a hold ma’ beer kind of way for occasional shooting.


5 posted on 10/04/2017 3:59:13 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: Jagermonster

They are range novelties.

Anyone who has ever used fully automatic weapons professionally knows that mode of operation is very limited in practical use.


6 posted on 10/04/2017 3:59:13 PM PDT by x1stcav (We have the guns. Do we have the will?)
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To: Jagermonster

You can bet your bippie California will be banning them asap. Prolly several other blue states too.


7 posted on 10/04/2017 4:01:13 PM PDT by umgud
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To: Jagermonster

I watched a video of one of these.

“Hey, guys, what if we made the whole rifle a moving part?”


8 posted on 10/04/2017 4:05:21 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
I don’t favor a ban on these, but it may happen.

They'll have to ban rubber bands too, because you can do the same thing with them.

9 posted on 10/04/2017 4:09:25 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>)
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To: Jagermonster

These things are total crap and I don’t care if they are outlawed.

Anyone who purchased one knows they got ripped off.

I’ve fired both the AK and AR with one of these, and other than being fun and amusing, they are totally worthless.

Besides, the Sheriff stated in one of his briefings that “at least one fully automatic rifle” was recovered at the scene.

And what I heard on the tapes sound like smooth auto fire, not intermittent staccato of one of these pieces of crap.


10 posted on 10/04/2017 4:10:06 PM PDT by Mariner (Pink Pussy Hats for the NFL)
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To: Jagermonster
This whole "bump stock" thing is a red herring.

If you go to Youtube, you can see how to render most any semi-automatic rifle into automatic-style fire with—wiat for it—a rubber band!

It's that easy! There's literally nothing to it. A few minutes of familiarization and you're "off to the faces".

Just one of those thick brown rubber bands is all it takes. I've seen videos of people firing them from the shoulder, the waist, and about everything in between.

And guess what. It can be done even without a rubber band!

The fact is, this is 150+ year old technology, and the fact that something is semi-auto means that there are mechanical ways—usually very cheap ones—to make the trigger rebound and impact the trigger finger in such a way that the weapon fires as fast as it can cycle—just like it a machinegun.

Technology is something that, for practical purposes, you can't ban.

Click here to see rubber band bump firing semi-auto to simulate full auto

11 posted on 10/04/2017 4:10:43 PM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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*wait for it
*off to the races


12 posted on 10/04/2017 4:11:49 PM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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To: Jagermonster

Hell, Ryan says no action will be taken on easing gun regs.

the bump stock will be banned. Yet...never mind that

I just saw a video where a guy “bump” fired without a bump fire stock. He only fired from the hip.
I also saw a video where a guy “bump” fired using a rubber band. He could fire from a normal firing position.
I saw a video where a guy “bump” fired using an “auto-glove”.

Yet, everyone will pat themselves on the back.


13 posted on 10/04/2017 4:11:50 PM PDT by stylin19a (Lynch & Clinton - Snakes on a Plane)
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To: umgud

“You can bet your bippie California will be banning them asap. Prolly several other blue states too.”

Maybe it’ll placate them (only if we raise hell over it) and stop them from doing real damage.


14 posted on 10/04/2017 4:12:16 PM PDT by Mariner (Pink Pussy Hats for the NFL)
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To: Jagermonster
Look at this one using an elastic hair tie
15 posted on 10/04/2017 4:23:42 PM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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To: Mariner

Well, aside from the whole no delegated power given the federal aspect.


16 posted on 10/04/2017 4:53:18 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Jagermonster

The Christian Science Monitor has been anti-gun since 1968. Still spewing the same old drivel.


17 posted on 10/04/2017 4:58:31 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I’m not getting much of an anti-gun bent to the article.


18 posted on 10/04/2017 5:02:08 PM PDT by Jagermonster (TANSTAAFL)
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To: Jagermonster

I would not be at all surprised if bump-fire stocks get banned, and capacity limits for magazines may happen, as well. Neither of those would matter much if someone wants to do a mass shooting, but logic is often the real casualty in gun control legislation.

If it does happen, I hope we can get something decent in the bargain. National CCW reciprocity would be great. National constitutional carry would be even better. Those may tread on “states’ rights” though.


19 posted on 10/04/2017 5:02:12 PM PDT by FreedomForce
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To: Jagermonster

You don’t need a bump stock to bump fire.

A piece of string or rubber band will do.
If you know how to set it up.

Should the Feds outlaw string and rubber bands?


20 posted on 10/04/2017 5:21:09 PM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (Libtards wish anarchy and death for others, but not for themselves.)
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