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I used to think gun control was the answer. My research told me otherwise.
Washington Post ^ | October 3, 2017 | Leah Libresco

Posted on 10/03/2017 11:24:20 PM PDT by Reno89519

Before I started researching gun deaths, gun-control policy used to frustrate me. I wished the National Rifle Association would stop blocking common-sense gun-control reforms such as banning assault weapons, restricting silencers, shrinking magazine sizes and all the other measures that could make guns less deadly.

Then, my colleagues and I at FiveThirtyEight spent three months analyzing all 33,000 lives ended by guns each year in the United States, and I wound up frustrated in a whole new way. We looked at what interventions might have saved those people, and the case for the policies I’d lobbied for crumbled when I examined the evidence. The best ideas left standing were narrowly tailored interventions to protect subtypes of potential victims, not broad attempts to limit the lethality of guns.

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KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; fivethirtyeight; guncontrol; guns
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This is a rather interesting read. Leah admits that all of the gun control advocates arguments and solutions fail to withstand scrutiny. She concludes:

By the time we published our project, I didn’t believe in many of the interventions I’d heard politicians tout. I was still anti-gun, at least from the point of view of most gun owners, and I don’t want a gun in my home, as I think the risk outweighs the benefits. But I can’t endorse policies whose only selling point is that gun owners hate them. Policies that often seem as if they were drafted by people who have encountered guns only as a figure in a briefing book or an image on the news.

Instead, I found the most hope in more narrowly tailored interventions. Potential suicide victims, women menaced by their abusive partners and kids swept up in street vendettas are all in danger from guns, but they each require different protections.

1 posted on 10/03/2017 11:24:21 PM PDT by Reno89519
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To: Reno89519

This is a great article to share with gun control people!


2 posted on 10/03/2017 11:28:50 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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If you pull out the statistics files...actual murders, assaults, wounded, etc...generally military-style weapons figure only into one-percent or less of all acts in a normal year. Shotgun activity will generally be less than one-percent. When you can establish silencers being involved in a situation...it’s awful rare.

So the chief weapon in roughly 98-to-99 percent of episodes are pistols. I think if we asked the Chicago cops to review their yearly database....virtually all of the shootings are pistol-related.

If you outlaw military assault rifles (the likely outcome now from this episode)...there’s still a million-odd weapons existing in the country which owners won’t turn in, and the black-market will become a place where people buy and trade such weapons in the future.


3 posted on 10/03/2017 11:53:18 PM PDT by pepsionice
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“specific measures to protect women menaced by their abusive partners “

Now this is archi-dumb. Americans women already have the best thing to protect them from abusive partners, it’s called... a gun.


4 posted on 10/04/2017 12:02:36 AM PDT by miniTAX
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“Instead, I found the most hope in more narrowly tailored interventions. Potential suicide victims, women menaced by their abusive partners and kids swept up in street vendettas...”

The author is just beginning to think for herself which I commend and encourage, but is still trapped mentally by the fences of pure liberalism.

* You can’t be a suicide victim. It doesn’t jump out and kill you without your own action. You perpetrate it on yourself. Statements like this show that the person can not parse life through any lens but that of a victim. It’s not heartless to say that someone COMMITS suicide. It’s just fact.

* Women menaced by abusive partners need guns. If the partner is truly that cruel and dangerous then they may acquire a weapon of any kind either through legal or illegal means. The only remedy is equalization of risk during an attack. That means the potential victim needs deadly force as an option.

* “...kids swept up in street vendettas...” This one is another twisted up lie wrapped with a grain of truth using the wrong words to make you feel rather than think. It should read “Kids growing up as members of street gangs.” There are always drug money wars involved. Saying the problem is a “vendetta” is trying to treat a symptom without naming the problem. They are members of killer gangs fighting for turf to sell drugs and make money. This is not a mere vendetta. Without more personal intellectual honesty than this further debate over what to do about the gangs, the young and not-so-young members and their level of armament is pointless.

But yes, Leah here is absolutely beginning to think for herself. Which is wonderful. Another year or two and she will be shunned and pushed out by her liberal peers for asking too many questions and sounding too conservative. She hasn’t yet fully discovered that her destination will be conservatism precisely because she wants to think for herself.


5 posted on 10/04/2017 12:23:00 AM PDT by Advil000
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Good analysis.


6 posted on 10/04/2017 12:37:23 AM PDT by Reno89519 (PRESIDENT TRUMP, KEEP YOUR PROMISES! NO AMNESTY AND BUILD THAT WALL.)
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To: Reno89519

Bookmark


7 posted on 10/04/2017 1:03:53 AM PDT by Read Write Repeat
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I was still anti-gun, at least from the point of view of most gun owners, and I don’t want a gun in my home, as I think the risk outweighs the benefits.
Perhaps a bit more research would disabuse her of this particular gun-grabbers' myth.
8 posted on 10/04/2017 1:15:35 AM PDT by Bob (Damn, the democrats haven't been this upset since Republicans freed their slaves.)
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To: miniTAX

BINGO! If we could have silencers to make guns as convenient for women as handling a light and quiet easy fun to use Nerf Gun, we would win the gun culture just like Apple won the Computer culture by making it psychologically accessible to women with the iphone waht was once a predominently “obscure” male endeavor.

The so called Assault Military features is a LIE. It was designed so feminine Vietnamese men with little access to tech know how could learn it quickly.

The AR is a device of accessibility with automatic features for the disabled and those not in gun culture as we know it.

This is why the NFA rules are so grievious.

I am willing to bet that if silencers were allowed and cheap, most gun ranges would require it for women and children and their safety!


9 posted on 10/04/2017 1:31:32 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucifiedc)
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To: Reno89519

Yes! Thanks for posting. Author will, I hope, continue and expand on the intellectual honesty she refreshingly displays this article, as above commenters have pointed out.


10 posted on 10/04/2017 1:59:13 AM PDT by cyn
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To: Advil000

“Another year or two and she will be shunned and pushed out by her liberal peers for asking too many questions and sounding too conservative. She hasn’t yet fully discovered that her destination will be conservatism precisely because she wants to think for herself.”

Good summation and I’d only add the old saw about a conservative being a liberal who has been mugged. I do not wish any violence on the author, merely pointing out that certain triggering events in our lives can bring a focus that would be hard to achieve otherwise. Such an event sweeps away the fog of human foibles and rationalizations to leave the clear light of day to see things as they are.


11 posted on 10/04/2017 2:06:12 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Reno89519

Marked for later


12 posted on 10/04/2017 2:20:56 AM PDT by guitar Josh
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The lefties will boycott the newly fascist gun-hugging WaPo. /s

13 posted on 10/04/2017 2:32:52 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Kill: NFL, NBA, BLM, CAIR, Hollywood, Antifa, SPLC, CNN, ESPN, NPR, TWITTER, FACEBOOK)
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To: Reno89519

I saw this in another publication. I’m surprised to see it in the compost.


14 posted on 10/04/2017 2:55:06 AM PDT by samtheman (As an oil exporter, why would the Russians prefer Trump to Hillary? (Get it or be stupid.))
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well, I would have read, copy/pasted it if it didn’t want me to shut down my adblocker.


15 posted on 10/04/2017 3:04:18 AM PDT by Big Giant Head
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To: Reno89519

Bump for later.


16 posted on 10/04/2017 3:15:27 AM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: Mount Athos

“This is a great article to share with gun control people!”

The gun control people I know are not interested in facts or reason. They KNOW guns are the problem and people who own guns, people not superior like them, are the problem. You can’t argue and trying will get you a spit shower. It’s not about guns, it’s about control. If there were no guns it would be Global Warming or gay marriage or your unreasonable stance on pedophilia.

“A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you”

I drive past a development of tiny houses. Individually, they are cute. There are about twenty of them on a lot that formerly had a small house on it. I buy sheds for my rental properties that are bigger by about one foot in width and two in length. I take it these things are about 80 square feet. I have two thousand square feet just for my tools and one of my four vehicles. My family has rooms set aside for activities like sewing or entertaining. I have friends with a room set aside for just a pool table. It’s fine that some people can live in a garden shed but they expect all of us to do it. I make money off my tools. Every time I drive by I think thoughts like yours about Al Bore.


17 posted on 10/04/2017 3:36:01 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Reno89519

Amazing!


18 posted on 10/04/2017 3:40:37 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Reno89519

bfl


19 posted on 10/04/2017 3:54:59 AM PDT by ImNotLying (The Constitution is an instrument for the people to restrain the government...Patrick Henry)
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To: Reno89519

Shocked this was at the Washington compost. They usually stay on talking points.


20 posted on 10/04/2017 4:04:39 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Sometimes There Is No Lesser Of Two Evils)
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