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The giant flaw in Trump’s tax plan
Yahoo News ^ | October 2nd, 2017 | Rick Newman

Posted on 10/02/2017 5:57:59 PM PDT by Mariner

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To: Mariner
"The only plausible explanation is their resentment and hatred of those that make enough money to itemize."


21 posted on 10/02/2017 6:29:04 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: Arthur McGowan

They need just the 9 plan. Hate to see accountants and tax prepairers lose their jobs but oh well. They don’t produce anything anyway.
What we produce is what is extracted from the ground (petroleum, minerals, sun power and water). Everything else is just passing money around.


22 posted on 10/02/2017 6:29:54 PM PDT by Undecided 2012
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To: Mariner

This is a negotiable item I am sure. I do not think Trump ever thought that this would survive.

Those so gleeful at the prospect of soaking the Blue States.
The pain will not be in the Moocher class (the Democrat voters) but on the more conservative filers, people like those here. They, for the most part, have not voted these taxes in. That is almost entirely the work of the Moocher class (non-taxpayers) always ready to vote for higher taxes to be paid by others.


23 posted on 10/02/2017 6:30:51 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Check out "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Arthur, what is on the table is what we get. It can be tweaked, and I believer there are several places this should be tweaked.

None the less, if those tweaks take place, we’re okay.

It may not be the plan either of us wants, but it is a plan and it could be implemented in months.

I will accomplish pumping more money into the private sector, will spark economic activity, and will approach the doubling of the federal government’s tax receipts over a few short years.

My big concern right now is the federal debt. We have to start paying that down. This can get us to where we can.

I believe there is a tax form credit card being considered along with this.

BTW: I have advocated for small businesses to get the same 20% ceiling that corporations will be getting, if reports are accurate.

I have no problem that 20% going across the board.


24 posted on 10/02/2017 6:31:15 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
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To: Undecided 2012

Nope, Your time = value (assuming your are actually productive)


25 posted on 10/02/2017 6:31:19 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: Paladin2

“provided” should be “CAUSED”.


26 posted on 10/02/2017 6:32:15 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: Mariner

Why should I pay for all your local and state taxes AND your interest deduction on your bloated mortgage.
Seems like you are the SJW.


27 posted on 10/02/2017 6:32:26 PM PDT by Undecided 2012
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To: Undecided 2012

Nope, Your time = value (assuming you are actually productive)


28 posted on 10/02/2017 6:33:48 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: Undecided 2012

Anyone with any degree of complexity will not be able to put it all on one page. It would be good for the average tax-payer.

Those with rental property could not possibly use one page. Nor could those with stock purchases and sales and carryovers.

When you speak of one page just how many lines will that be?

Removing the property tax and interest deductions would collapse the Real Estate market just for starters.


29 posted on 10/02/2017 6:37:45 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Check out "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: DoughtyOne

Doc, I worked real hard getting my family in PA to go Trump. The fact is and I continuously tell them all you watch is negative news. Trump is doing all he can do.
Trust me Congress will fail on this tax issue I assure you.
The R house and Senate is failing our President monumentally and intentionally.


30 posted on 10/02/2017 6:40:08 PM PDT by Undecided 2012
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To: Undecided 2012

Or me for your kids, or wife. If what you say is true, you have claimed many 10s of thousands in deductions over the years.

How would thing be now if you could not?

There are hundreds of deductions for individual filers.

Eliminate them all and the tax increase would be the highest in history.

Is that what you want? Higher taxes?


31 posted on 10/02/2017 6:40:21 PM PDT by Mariner (Pink Pussy Hats for the NFL)
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To: Undecided 2012

One sector does not an economy make. Certainly raw materials don’t or even come close.


32 posted on 10/02/2017 6:41:14 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Check out "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: Undecided 2012

Why should taxes be taxed? There is no justice in that.


33 posted on 10/02/2017 6:43:00 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Check out "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: Mariner

Simple. I’m not a defeatist troll like you.


34 posted on 10/02/2017 6:44:23 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Undecided 2012

I don’t doubt it.

By rights, the long term party members in Congress should be sending something incredibly good up to Trump. Instead we get these Leftist pipe dreams.

They say they believe in tax cuts for the same reason Trump does, but then they toss in things to pay for them.

Tax cuts pay for themselves. These helpless boobs don’t know squat.


35 posted on 10/02/2017 6:46:58 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
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To: arrogantsob
It will be interesting how they handle the deductibility of interest on income-producing property and/or house flips.

It might just re-collapse the speculative housing market. You know, those 3% interest rates (where I heard radio ads of a company allowing (ahem) 1% DOWN PAYMENT on a home.

36 posted on 10/02/2017 6:47:05 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: arrogantsob

you making it more complicated than you think. The stock co sends u a paper about at this tou bought and at this u sold at this. Yep, that is your profit. The management co send u a paper u spent X, this is your return, there is your profit/income. You wish to play all the deduction games. I wish to do away with them all. This is a free market capitalistic economy isn’t it, or do u wish communist to tell you u what, where, and what to buy or sell. Which is it.


37 posted on 10/02/2017 6:50:55 PM PDT by Undecided 2012
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To: Mariner
The obvious tipoff.. it's a Yahoo article.

Yahoo is left leaning and anti-Trump.

39 posted on 10/02/2017 6:52:47 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: Mariner

You don’t think reducing the corporate taxes will result in increased returns to (the itemizing) investors?
If your view is that corporate taxes don’t hurt investment returns then tax companies 100% and give deductions to everyone else for everything.


40 posted on 10/02/2017 6:55:57 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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