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Did The Vegas Shooter Use A Fully Automatic Weapon?
hot air ^ | 10-2-17

Posted on 10/02/2017 8:58:36 AM PDT by doug from upland

Opinion is divided this morning on Twitter among people who, unlike me, know more than the most basic basics about firearms. It’s not a matter of mere curiosity; as you (should) know, fully automatic weapons have been illegal in the U.S. for decades, which is why even mass shooters hellbent on murder unto death never use them. If Stephen Paddock used a machine gun, how on earth did he get it?

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; lasvegas; lvmassacre; mandalaymassacre; massmurder; paddock; paddockweapons; stephenpaddock
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To: Yo-Yo

Any exposure I’ve had to bump fire stocks shows they are highly inaccurate. I’d be interested in seeing the ballistic distribution spread. If it’s tight, smart money is on a select fire weapon and not any sort of bump firing rig.


41 posted on 10/02/2017 9:12:50 AM PDT by rarestia (Repeal the 17th Amendment and ratify Article the First to give the power back to the people!)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Several years ago, while working part time at a gun store, a “customer” came in and offered to sell me an M-60, complete with tool kit and extra barrel. Ten grand, no questions. I hastily declined thinking it may be an ATFE “trap”. But the possibilities....they are out there.


42 posted on 10/02/2017 9:12:51 AM PDT by Hornet22
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To: doug from upland

slide/bump fire; why else would he have 10 weapons? If he had a full auto belt fed weapon, he would be much more efficient with just one weapon. Also, if I had an actual full auto belt fed and was proficient in its use (which I am), I would not fire through an entire belt non-stop like he did, then pause to get next weapon, repeat. I would fire targeted burst, slight pause, targeted burst, etc.


43 posted on 10/02/2017 9:12:53 AM PDT by LambSlave
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To: doug from upland

i am no full auto expert.

but can’t semi autos be converted to full auto rather cheaply?


44 posted on 10/02/2017 9:13:31 AM PDT by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: doug from upland

https://twitter.com/search?q=IS+FULL+AUTO+WEAPON+LEGAL&ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Enews%7Ctwgr%5Esearch


45 posted on 10/02/2017 9:13:57 AM PDT by doug from upland (Stand and honor the flag --- locking arms BS doesn't cut it)
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To: rarestia

actually retirees are the richest group of citizens as a whole.


46 posted on 10/02/2017 9:14:07 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Make America Great Again !)
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To: robroys woman

Multiple weapons.


47 posted on 10/02/2017 9:15:20 AM PDT by Ingtar (American where the flag and culture offend, but the benefits are demanded.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Oh, 400 rounds in rapid succession is not a lot. I was discussing this with one of my sons recently. With his Ruger 10/22 he can fire 25 round magazine in 15-25 seconds, swap out and resume in seconds. That’s 50-plus per minute. Ten minus equals 500. Granted larger caliber will be more taxing but bigger hands make up for that challenge.


48 posted on 10/02/2017 9:15:20 AM PDT by Reno89519 (PRESIDENT TRUMP, KEEP YOUR PROMISES! NO AMNESTY AND BUILD THAT WALL.)
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To: raiderboy
Full autos are illegal so laws won’t help.

Full autos are not illegal.
49 posted on 10/02/2017 9:15:37 AM PDT by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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To: doug from upland

From the description and the range of the shooting, was the shooter using something much more powerful than an assault rifle such as an AK-47/74 or an AR-15 variant? The LVMPD has show the types of weapons used, and one could be a highly-modified Browning Automatic Rifle fitted with a drum feed weapons magazine.


50 posted on 10/02/2017 9:16:17 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: Reno89519

My question is, how did he get all of that into the hotel? Do places like this allow people to bring in guns, have no detection/security system etc. ? (I don’t travel much or stay in places like that, so I don’t know about them.)


51 posted on 10/02/2017 9:16:19 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: doug from upland

Let’s see
10 minutes (600 seconds) = 515 wounded + 58 dead
that’s almost 1 killed or wounded every second


52 posted on 10/02/2017 9:16:56 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Men stand up for freedom; slaves kneel before their masters.)
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To: rarestia; Sopater; Lurkinanloomin

Thanks, all of you.

How likely do you think it is that this guy had it (them?) legally?


53 posted on 10/02/2017 9:17:15 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: doug from upland
There a are some shops right across the freeway in that neighborhood that advertise you can fire an automatic weapon for a fee and they have many types to choose from.

For example:

https://www.battlefieldvegas.com/

54 posted on 10/02/2017 9:17:37 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: Jarhead9297; All

> can’t stop until ... expended

Completely not true.


55 posted on 10/02/2017 9:17:53 AM PDT by old-ager
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To: doug from upland

Fifty years ago I read a letter to the editor from an angry anti-hunter who thought it was fun to hunt hunters. He claimed to use a silenced rifle with the silencer smuggled in from Mexico.

Possible a smuggled in firearm, but let’s wait and see.


56 posted on 10/02/2017 9:18:17 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: jimbug
it sounded like this maniac had high capacity drum mags.

Unless the acoustics were distorted in multiple audio recordings, I agree with you.

57 posted on 10/02/2017 9:19:04 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Tear down the Mexican Carrier plant and use the materials to build the wall)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
No way you could get off 400 rounds otherwise. Your finger would be ready to fall off halfway through that.

Admit it. You've never shot an AR-15, have you? Never done a mag dump with one?

You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

58 posted on 10/02/2017 9:19:16 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Trump won; we got Gorsuch and a bit of the MAGA agenda. But now the Swamp is back in control.)
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To: Jamestown1630
My question is, how did he get all of that into the hotel? Do places like this allow people to bring in guns, have no detection/security system etc. ? (I don’t travel much or stay in places like that, so I don’t know about them.

I posted on Twitter a question: did the shooter get inside help from the hotel clean staff to get all those weapons into the hotel room?

59 posted on 10/02/2017 9:19:36 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: doug from upland

Sounded full auto to me


60 posted on 10/02/2017 9:19:46 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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